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valoren
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does the name for this new murderwedge necessarily need to end in -or? If yes, I have some propositions:
moderator, evictor, protector, federator (after all it’s an old republic ship)… or fractal has already chosen for himself and in that case all of this is pointless.

RhysT
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Not in the Episode Grievous Intrigue trust me. Just rewatched it.

Striker
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Wondering on name but mostly what time period. To me seems to make sense that this would predate the Mandator so still obviously useful due to its size but Mandator is improved in armor and firepower for the same length. Just wondering what your design thoughts and back ground are for this thing.

Xeno
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Still wondering what you’re gonna name this beast. It’s not really a Mandator (no hump, and Mandator would have 5x the armament (able to bitchslap 1,000+ Recusants IIRC)) but maybe Mandator Lite? Since it’s 8 km like a Mandator? Or is it the Legator? Auditor-class would be interesting, also.

RhysT
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I have to say I always hated those stats. I know they’re pseudo-cannon, but all the same the just strike me as…excessive. I mean really? One ship (even a 8km beast) taking on a thousand capital ships?) There’s a bit of a largely unspoken joke among fans that Sci-Fi Author’s tend to have no sense of scale. Sorry, ranting….On another note I like the name “Legator”!

Xeno
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I feel exactly the same way about the mandator lol. However, we do see this star battleship having 50+ HTL turrets where a Venator has 8, so it’s probably an order of magnitude more powerful. And yeah, I suggested Legator a while back for the compellor cruiser and I keep at it for this build.

gorkmalork
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To be fair, that quote says nothing about a hypothetical Mandator’s condition *after* such a battle. Might very well be a case of thousand-cuts-death *plus* utter decimation for the wolfpack, assuming neither party breaks for hyperspace at a critical point (which I find damned unlikely).

AdmiralStrang
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The thing about Recusants is that they’re barely destroyers. Recusants are, as Frac said, really hollow and narrow– outside of a token few bulkier vessels most Confederate ships were really skeletal because they were half automated and what wasn’t automated was crewed by droids. They didn’t even have proper main hangars because droid fighters were meant to roost under their hull shrouds. Recusants’ shields weren’t particularly powerful and they were designed to attack in frontal charges, not slug it out in broadsides– the Mandator II, on the other hand, is an immense brawler several magnitudes the mass of a Recusant.… Read more »
RhysT
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Are they talking about the standard Recuscant model? Or that weird large variant model Grievous was riding around in the clone wars tv show that could take on Venators? That sorta confuses the issue too… as for the math of ship power versus size I’ll take your word for it.

gorkmalork
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I’m pretty sure Grievous’ flagship was actually a Providence-class vessel, which comes in 1.1 km standard and 2.2 km custom flavors (he opted for the latter, natch). The confusion’s understandable, of course-I have a helluva time distinguishing non-Lucrehulk CIS ships on occasion.

valoren
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I can confirm that the invisible hand, the personal flagship of general grievous, is a providence-class carrier/destroyer. in the clone wars series we were introduced to oversized version of already existent separatist warship, such as admiral trench’s dreadnought (a providence) and grievous first season flagship (a recusant), both twice the size of their original versions, respectively 2177m and 2400m.
Frankly, the thing is an absolute mess, the only thing I know for sure is that grievous personal ship at the time of ROTS was, strangely, when you know the guy, the standard 1088m version

gorkmalork
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@valoren
Confirmation appreciated. Also, kinda hilarious how the Clone Wars cartoon’s CIS flagships play the ‘super star destroyer’ trope a lot straighter than Executor ever did (since you certainly can’t say that thing’s just a scaled-up Impstar).

valoren
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Agree, and it’s even more funny when you see that trench flagship, the invincible, is designated as a dreadnought. So just to recap, 2200m=dreadnought but 19000m=destroyer.

valoren
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A cruiser isn’t superior to a destroyer?

Eric Otness
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Well, technically, Star Cruiser DOES exist in the EGTW book system, but it’s for the low end of the Star Battlecruiser line in terms of length (eg, the Allegiance-class). But yeah, agreed overall with your point.