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Fleet Admiral Lyrus Oran
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Fleet Admiral Lyrus Oran

Would this ship be a good personal ship?

Fleet Admiral Lyrus Oran
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Fleet Admiral Lyrus Oran

Would this ship be a good personal ship or no?

Anonymous
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So since the Legator can carry 50 fighter wings it make me wonder how many wings can the Executor carried?

Octosquid99
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How long is this ship

Darth Ashes
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Hi Fractal

As someone mentioned the Pride Of Tarlandia, have you ever considered doing your interpretation of this mysterious ‘communications ship’ from RotJ? Using that command tower/bridge a lot of theorists have said could belong to it? Would be interesting to see! And we would finally have a ‘face’ to put to the ‘name’.

Anonymous
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how many starfighters does this ship carry

Anonymous
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So Fractal since you said this ship can carry a army sized troop contingent does it mean it is either a field army (100k-300k troops) or a army group front? (2+ field armies)

Sephiroth0812
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Unrelated to other interesting discussions already going on, I recently re-read the novelization of Return of the Jedi and also scoured around Wookieepedia a little in response. During the Battle of Endor it is said that while the Executor is the only full “Super Star Destroyer” present, but both the new Disney Canon and Legends also identify the “Pride of Tarlandia”, which is described as a “Battlecruiser” which acts as a communication and coordination unit for the Imperial fleet. Would it be too farfetched to headcanon the “Pride of Tarlandia” as being a vessel of the Legator-class considering its massive… Read more »
Grand Admiral Declann
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Grand Admiral Declann
I was thinking that the domes could be shield generators, but apparently they are massive fire-control radars. Given how it is supposedly a battleship with 50TT Standardized Twins in Turrets, which is 3,580,000,000 times the power of the Hiroshima bomb in a single bolt. 2 of the bolts each time they fire a gun as they are twins. There are 362 of those guns on the ship. Want a planet gone? Point the ship at a planet, and rotate all the guns to hit as close to a focal point as they can, then “You may fire when ready.” Bye… Read more »
Grand Admiral Declann
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Grand Admiral Declann

ftWoops, I missed the 4 DIRECTLY BEHIND THE MAIN THRUST NOZZLE! Woauldn’t they slag and melt? And what if they had an absent-minded gunner who sent a bolt directly down the engine shaft?

Grand Admiral 517
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Sadly not. The Legator-class has the Tractor beam targeting array of the Imperial I-class while the Pride of Tarlandia is shown to have the communications tower of the Imperial II-class.

I’d say the Pride of Tarlandia is most likely an Allegiance-class

Grand Admiral Declann
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Sorry, that was the Architect part of me speaking….. Great work, Fractal Sponge! Seriously though, could you try to make a Fleet Shield Generator type Ship? The uses for that ship would be unbelievably immense. At worst, it would just be a support ship. At best, it could keep an entire — or at least a significant portion — of a Sector Fleet alive to fight another day.

Grand Admiral Declann
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Grand Admiral Declann

So the Empire made a specialized Imperial-II Class Star Destroyer called the Conquerer and it had a super laser, right? They also made a Cruiser that can keep targets from escaping to lightspeed called the Interdictor. Why did the Empire not make a ship dedicated to protecting their own capitol ships? Then they would have the holy trio of Space Combat: a ship that could destroy nearly any ship with a single shot, a ship to keep the hostile vessels from escaping, and they would also have a ship that would keep their own ships safe from nearly all damage.

Sephiroth0812
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Depends on what you mean by “protecting their capital ships”, from what threat? Massive fighter/bomber attacks? For this the Empire has the Raider-Corvette (new Disney-canon)/Lancer Frigate (Legends canon) or Carrack Cruisers. They can also add a carrier to the group to counter enemy fighters with their own like i.e. a Ton-Falk Escort Carrier or a Venator-class Star Destroyer (the latter bringing also a bit of firepower with it). Interdictor Cruisers themselves also have a sizeable anti-fighter armament. Light ships swarming the lumbering bigger ones like the “Conqueror” (which was an one-of-a-kind experimental ship btw, not a true class for mass… Read more »
Grand Admiral Declann
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I mean a ship the size of the Legator devoted to powering a MASSIVE Deflector Shield. The ships you listed would be great for protecting, but at their own expense. The idea I have is a Fleet Support Ship. I originally thought that the Legator was like that, because of the huge domes.

Sephiroth0812
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You mean like a flying theater shield that’s normally used for ground bases? Interesting idea, although I imagine it greatly hampering fleet mobility and draining on the energy resources of the ship in question. Not to mention physical objects like fighters/drones or missiles could just fly through the deflector shield so unless there’s also a projected particle shield the support would be only partial. The Legator-class is a battleship though, although a late Republic/early Empire one so it can be imagined serving in both Clone Wars and Galactic Civil War conflicts. True to Republic doctrine it doesn’t have the “overwhelming… Read more »
Grand Admiral Declann
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What is the job of this ship? would it be a shield magnifier? Put it in the middle of a fleet in a tight cluster formation, stacking their shields, so that this would drastically boost shield power? I don’t see many emplacements, unlike the Assertor or the Bellator. As a Non-fleet ship, this thing would be hillariously outgunned.

gorkmalork
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Those super-sized domes are apparently comm/EW/scanner devices; as for shield-stacking, dunno whether even your average battlecruiser/dreadnought would want to add ‘mobile theater defense’ to its already-hefty power demands, or whether the cost in general fleet mobility would be mitigated by such defensive coverage if it worked.

Grand Admiral Declann
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Overlapping shields by getting close enough is possible. I was wondering because of, well, those massive domes, and also the apparent lack of offensive weapons. What is the point of those turrets, anyways? They look to small to do any severe damage to a major Capitol Ship, at least without focusing a quarter of that quadrant’s cannons on a singular target. Probably the easiest way to kill this ship is to swarm its rear belly section with a B-Wing Attack Run. There are only 4 turrets protecting the engines.

Grand Admiral Declann
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Grand Admiral Declann
And yes, I know that the ship can still escape without it’s sublight engines, but if you swarm enough fighters, bombers, corvettes and frigates around it, and it wouldn’t be able to jump to hyperspace. Not without severely damaging itself at least and rupturing the domes and destroying the equipment inside. Also, the reason why I could see the Empire making a ship specifically made to generate a shield around other ships when they are in a tightly packed Attack Formation is because if the Dreadnoughts and Star Destroyers don’t have to worry about generating their own shields, then they… Read more »
Anonymous
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So I check this ship’s armaments and fighters and it carry a whopping 50 fighter wings (That over 8 fighter groups!) I mean wow make me wonder how many fighter wings can the Preator fleet carrier variant carry.
Anyway here the stats: http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?p=4037308#p4037308
By away Fractal since 6 fighter wings make a group what would 6 fighter group would equal to?

Sephiroth0812
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It’s a battleship isn’t it? So 600+ fighters are reasonable, especially since the Legator seems to be an late-Republic design (it has Venator-HTL turrets) and unlike the Imps the Republic had more of a focus on fighter craft. I also find the Legator somehow very visually pleasing, it has a sleek yet dangerous looking design and seems to be capable of blasting apart any Separatist or Rebel vessel it faces (except maybe the Malevolence). Where stands it power-wise anyways? I guess Executor, Assertor and Bellator are a few numbers too big for it to take on, but anything other it… Read more »
Anonymous
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Well the ship is 8km in length which is battleship size but like I said it carry 50 wings of fighters (Which is equal to a whopping 3,600 fighters!) so I guess it could also be called a Battlecarrier (Although I kinda doubt Fractal would like that term to be use) but the Legator also have many EW and command equipment which make it more of the Command Ship.

Anonymous
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Speaking of the Battlecarrier Fractal someone have use you Impellor and made it from the fleet carrier to the Battlecarrier although it’s classification was a Super Carrier.
It decrease the length to 3km and made it to have carry two full attack craft of fighters and interceptors, half the wing of bombers and a squadron of gunships although it oddly said in it’s hangers are 18 squadrons, it’s defenses is high and it’s speed and maneuverability were low.
Here are more information about it: http://starwarsrp.net/topic/109441-ifw-impellor-class-battle-carrier/

Sephiroth0812
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Strictly spoken the Venator already is a “Battlecarrier” as it is a hybrid design of a medium destroyer and carrier vessel, although the carrier is its primary role and the destroyer the secondary one. So the Legator following this line of thinking only on a bigger scale is reasonable to a degree considering the apparent doctrine of the “Old” Republic of having dual-role ships and a bigger emphasis on fighters than the later Empire has. 3600 fighters is certainly a huge complement, so I would guess that a Republic-era Legator would carry V19-Torrents and NTB-630 bombers early-Clone Wars, then switching… Read more »
Anonymous
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I wonder how this would look with ISD 1 main turrets instead of Venator turrets

Grand Admiral Declann
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Grand Admiral Declann

You mean the Octuple guns? Yeah, that would make it a seriously heavy hitter. It would be able to go toe-to-toe against a Mon Cal Cruiser, and win.

Anonymous
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That the ISD 2 guns which is the 32/40 teratons caliber, I’m talking about the duel 175 teratons caliber heavy turbolasers use by the ISD 1.
Plus the Legator already have the 175 teratons caliber heavy turbolasers which is the ball quads turbolasers in the trench alongside the ball quad 240 teratons caliber heavy ion cannons so I think it doesn’t need those ISD 1 guns.

Anonymous
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Anyone have any thoughts on how long this is supposed to be?

gorkmalork
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Pretty sure it’s 8 km (which, oddly enough, was Executor’s quoted length in a ton of old-EU books & games).

Jason
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Seeing these ships just makes me even more disappointed with the Sequels we’re getting. Chock full of crappy designs…

gorkmalork
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Ooh, engine glow & shade-flourishes for Executor’s big-eared aunt. Supposed energetic implications aside, gold just fits this puppy, and that head-on ninth shot down is possibly its best angle.

Arvenski
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That head-on shot is epic. Also, by order of Imperial Center, you’re required to listen to this while viewing these pictures: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bzWSJG93P8

gorkmalork
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Does Director Isard allow for soundtrack variants? ‘Cause this one seems like the Coruscant public-approved key: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9MShtCg4fk

Arvenski
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Ooh, that’s really cool. Thanks for linking. If the Empire were good guys, that’d be the music for them.

Chris Bradshaw
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The Empire are the good guys. Look what happened when they fell apart. Hux and his merry band of Space Daesh took over.

gorkmalork
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@Chris Can’t help figuring that falls under ‘certain point of view’ territory, and one unlikely to be shared by a massive chunk of the galaxy-‘specially whomever the Death Stars (and then Starkiller) were scheduled to ‘reprimand’. Plenty of medium/low-echelon Imps weren’t privy to high command’s malfeasance, of course-in fact, I keep visualizing an ex-Remnant sector force or two throwing their lot in with the Resistance somewhere during/prior to Ep 8. That way we get Impstars, Tectors, Vics & the odd Praetor dueling Resurgents & siege pizzas alongside whatever NR fleet survived the Hosnian carnage. Doubtful the films themselves will allow… Read more »
Arvenski
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@Gorkmalork
“I keep visualizing an ex-Remnant sector force or two throwing their lot in with the Resistance somewhere during/prior to Ep 8.” I’d love it if that were the case. Good-guy pseudo-Imperials would be fun to see, especially if they had their own aesthetic that was recognizably Imperial in origin but was also different, indicating how these people have changed since the time of Palpatine’s Empire.

gorkmalork
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@Arvenski
Dunno about you, but ‘my’ aesthetic(s) would involve less standardized paint jobs & unit markings on everything from battlecruisers (Republic-style stripes?) to TIE squadrons (desert-tan Avengers, anyone?), depending on where said fleets were originally stationed. Plus, (a) a notable percentage of nonhuman grunts & officers and (b) an eclectic second-line assortment of supply-chain superfreighters & captured pirate/Black Sun/Hutt cartel assets-after a couple years their access to original Imp resources/channels would be patchy at best.

Arvenski
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@Gorkmalork Yeah, that’s kinda what I was thinking. Non-standard paint schemes on ships, with lots of visible wear, tear, and sort-of-repaired battle damage in places. Troopers might have camouflaged armor, like the clones used to, and could be equipped with a motley assortment of gear and weapons. (A good touch would be if most troops weren’t using full helmets anymore. That would show that these people have come a long way from being Imperials, and would emphasize their humanity, since we could see their faces.) What I’m thinking of are the Rebel soldiers from Rogue One, but with a bit… Read more »
gorkmalork
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@Arvenski
Now that you mention partial helmets: I’m starting to ponder what scout-biker headgear would look like with a Scarif beachtrooper dye job & detachable air filter.

Valoren
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There was a guy in one scene of Rogue one, who wore a scout helmet dyed in black.

Daniel w
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Avenski… it all depends on the mood of the propaganda. The first for ‘You can’t win, surrender now.’ the second for ‘See we’re really not so bad.’

can you just imagine Vader visiting Palpy’s Youth Center? mwhahaha

Anonymous
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You know at this point my predictions just going to be luck based so I’l just accept which ships or fighters going to get a 4K render instead of randomly guessing which is next.
Also the engines glow orange this time huh so i guess the acceleration speed will be between red slowest and blue fastest right?

Xeno
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absolutely gorgeous

I’ll always be attached to this ship, thanks to it’s name, shape, and personal appeal, but *damn*, you are truly a magician, captain

gorkmalork
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That reminds me: fine suggested moniker on your part.