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CRMcNeill

Does the Procursator carry any fighters? I looked on Star Destroyer but couldn’t find any word either way.

Ryadra777
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No it doesn’t carry any fighters due to not having a hanger bay. expect the one that carry shuttles.

CRMcNeill
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CRMcNeill

Hmm. Seems odd. Fractal’s own Vigil-Class carries a full squadron of TIEs and it’s only 254-meters long. This is consistent with other ships in the SWU, like the Nebulon B, which can pack 24 TIEs into that spindly hull. A 1,200 meter wedge should be able to fit in a couple squadrons for patrol / defense purposes.

Steve Bannon
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Steve Bannon

It does have a small bay for shuttles that could be reconfigured for a few light fighters, but the whole point of the Procursator is to operate as a specialist screening unit for other ships in a fleet, rather than go off alone gallivanting in the outer rim. If used as intended, dedicated carriers like the Impellor should provide it with fighter cover. Also, how the heck does a Nebulon fit 2 squadrons? With the pathetic amount of volume it has, there isn’t any room for a hangar bay that big, unless that figure assumes that the fighters are carried… Read more »

Bob
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Bob

From what I understand, that’s exactly how the Nebulons carry them. I thought I saw a post from fractal on one of the Procursator designs saying it carries a squadron or two.

CRMcNeill
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CRMcNeill

That was a WEG decision reaching all the way back to the First Edition. However, they did come out with a game supplement called The Far Orbit Project with a partial deck plan of the Nebulon B that included the main hangar bay, complete with overhead racks with room for 24 TIEs. The Medical Variant basically converted most/all of that hangar bay into a hospital. Regarding the Procursator, though, what it’s intended to be used for is not necessarily how it ends up being used in practice. Giving it a couple squadrons of TIEs would allow it to contribute to… Read more »

Steve Bannon
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Steve Bannon

Sure, you could probably put in a few squadrons of TIEs… or you could take that volume and fill it with more armor, capacitor banks, heat sinks, or a secondary reactor so that the Procursator is more lethal and survivable in a fleet brawl. Pretty much every other heavy frigate/light destroyer in the fleet has a fighter bay if you need a ship for some side mission, so the Procursator can specialize in fighting. Perhaps it might have only been put into production during the true Galactic Civil War after Endor to replace some of the tens of thousands of… Read more »

Ryadra777
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Except*

Ryadra777
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Fractal I wonder if you could do the Procursator Version 3?
Like having an updated sensor globes and bridge details like on the Imperator redux but most importantly updating the 3 triple 175 TT heavy turbolasers so it look like actual cannon turrets instead of being plain non-tube cylinders.

Chris
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Chris

About 1/3 of the way back from the nose…are those missiles??

Anonymous
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Anonymous

how long is this fine vessel

Anonymous
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Anonymous

1.2 Km long

Anonymous
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Anonymous

So Fractal what the polygon count on this new version like around 1-2 millions?

Sephiroth0812
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Sephiroth0812

These comparison pics with the ImpStar somehow make me chuckle, it’s almost like a little brother tagging along with big bro trying to show off that he’s a toughie too. ;D

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

Funny thing is, the Procursator’s actually packing punchier (albeit fewer) main guns than that Impstar Deuce. Short kid with an aluminum bat.

PhantomFury
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PhantomFury

I noticed a notch midship on the first terrace that looks like it could fit a turret in there, but was left as an opening. Rather, there seems to be something that looks like a closed hangar door. Is that an airlock perhaps? Something to get around the issue that the Procursor-class lacks a hangar?

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

No denying the texture upgrade, but I’m rather torn about that bridge reshaping. Makes sense for playing up the ‘pocket Impstar’ aesthetic, to be sure. Two scattershot musings come to mind: (a) how often the name similarity to Procurator produces massive clerical errors and (b) how many Procursators you’d need to wolfpack the older ship (I’m guessing an even dozen).

countvertex
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countvertex

What are those two spikes below the bridge tower? That’s a feature I haven’t noticed on any other star destroyer type.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

So Fractal I notice something strange when I post a picture in this website at first it was the right size to see probably but then suddenly much later the picture become much smaller than it was so what up with that?

RedBird
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RedBird

Awesome update!

Valoren
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Valoren

Fractal, what do you think is the average density of a Star Wars warship ?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

That’s a really nasty version, I like it much better than the previous one. The first version look unfinished to be honest. Is it still in the same 1200-1300m range as old one or is it smaller as Imperator seems to be about one third larger. Can forward “closed” hangar still be used to deploy fighters/small craft? Does it have any fighters at ll? P.S. I think that I found small error in your model. The point defence guns at the middle of the bottom spine have non-symmetrical arrangement for no obvious reason. It can be easily spotted here: Six… Read more »

jonathan
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jonathan

I wouldn’t consider that an error but that’s just my opinion

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

That hangar looks big enough for Lambda-grade shuttles and at least a handful of fighter squads. Not potential Impstar capacity, but comparable to an MC80’s internal space for alphabet birds.

Jonathan C.
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Ahh, a nice clear look at the bottom. No open hanger eh? Just landing craft/troops? Or none of those either? Ah well that is what Ton Falks are for. Are the HTL’s here superior to those on say a victory (besides having a 3rd barrel)? Same firing rate/yield? If not than the little Victory outguns her 18 to 9.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

So I found this cruiser which is the Liberator class it’s length is unknown but it is said to be slender and small in size but carry a lot of weapons which is 240 heavy turbolasers (40×2 on both fore and aft and 80×2 on both port and starboard) and 200 ion cannons (40 on fore and 80×2 on again both port and starboard) and it carry 6 starfighter squadrons and 3 troop regiments.
Here what it look like:comment image/revision/latest?cb=20120613093221

Valoren
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240 HTLs ?! That thing has to be a battlecruiser. It’s four Impstars worth of turbolaser.

Chris Bradshaw
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Chris Bradshaw

I think its pretty conclusively a heavy frigate. 240 particularly oversized LTL might be believable, especially for a vessel designed to fight piracy.

Valoren
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Apparently the numbers were somewhat overinflated. I just looked “liberator cruiser” and the first wikia page reference those numbers, but the next one say the ship is 398 m, with an armement of 24 TLs and 20 ICs. The troop and fighter complement stay consistent though.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

You sure I check it again and it the same: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Liberator-class_cruiser

Anonymous
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Anonymous

You know the Liberator class cruiser look quite like the broadside class cruiser when you compare them.

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

@Valoren
Good check-the second page’s heavy-weapon count makes much more sense. Wouldn’t mind more Sullustan heavy metal (including stuff comparable to Imp cruisers or mid-Rebellion Mon Cal flagships), but that one at least seems a couple steps up from the Quasar Fire.

Grand Admiral Declann
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Grand Admiral Declann

That is a Rebel ship…

Sephiroth0812
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Sephiroth0812

The Broadside cruiser is claimed to be inspired by the Gladiator-class Star Destroyer in terms of overall keel design, but it could be as easily also the Liberator.

As far as I know the Liberator was a ship created solely for the old PC game Star Wars: Rebellion (Supremacy in the UK) and barely used elsewhere in the old Legends EU.
In-game it was supposed to be the Rebel Alliance’s “answer” to the Empire’s Victory II-class Star Destroyer.

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

I can attest re: Liberator never, ever seeming to crop up in any of the EU novels I cracked open. Still doesn’t strike me as a good one-on-one match for any light destroyer, and it goes in the opposite direction if we ignore the carried-craft numbers + abstract-seeming model in favor of HTL count and assume it *is* battlecruiser-scale, but such is mid-90s game balance.

CRMcNeill
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CRMcNeill

The explanation for the high number of turbolasers is a mistake in translation from the primary source (the Star Wars: Rebellion strategy game). Those numbers actually represent relative “throw weight” of a ship’s weaponry compared to other ships. For the sake of comparison, here are the game’s stats for the Liberator, the MC80 and the ISD I: LIBERATOR Fighter capacity: 6 Troop capacity: 3 Shield strength: 600 Hull strength: 1800 Sublight engine rating: 4 Maneuverability: 2 Fore Aft Port Starboard Turbo Lasers 40 40 80 80 Ion Cannons 40 0 80 80 Laser Cannons 0 0 0 0 MC80 Fighter… Read more »

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

Shamefully belated thanks for the much-needed clarification WRT Rebellion’s rating system. Not sure I buy a ship of this size & shape packing enough juice for 4/5ths of a Mon Cal’s energy-weapon yield *plus* twice the shield strength, but the small-craft, troop & heavy turret count as per its model seems to make sense; if anything, Liberators might have space enough for an extra two fighter squads if an especially lucrative convoy raid’s in the offing. Might also be *just* survivable enough against Vics or Venators to jump clear or pick off the 418 preventing said escape.

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

Right, the old gameplay unit-balance chestnut, albeit applied to a nominally capital craft instead of snubs. Given the scale of those turret(?) bumps I’m tempted to roll with McNeill’s take on its size, but Libs may be much better-suited to convoy-raiding (or escort), bargain Acclamator substitution, or rounding off a light destroyer squadron’s small-craft shortages. Certainly a step or three up from Quasar Fires, though Ton Falks may have ’em beat WRT hangar efficiency.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Whoa so this is was the Procursator look like when you put great effort into it instead of being done in just two days amazing!
Also since this is a version 2 will there be anymore of them on different ships or this is will be the only one you did?

Astro1derboy
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Astro1derboy

Whoooooooaaaaaaw!! Sweet!!!

Road Warrior
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Road Warrior

Phenomenal….

damn it

Road Warrior
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Road Warrior

I spy new geo! (I think) Light guns and hand-wave bits from the Victory. Possibly the bow has new bits too. Whether any of this correct- been awhile since I took a gander at the Procursator gallery- it looks phenominal.

Very nice, boss!