Commissioned piece. Idea was for an East Indiaman type armed transport. 462.8m x 214m, depth variable.
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UnKnownGatekeeper
Would this thing have been used to send important shipments to distant garrisons in pirate controlled areas of space, or just as a general transport? Wondering.
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Mark B
I would love it if you came up with a history of who/what and when it was built for and by whom. Specs would be awesome as well. Length, height, mass, weaponry, power outputs , personnel etc etc.
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Spymonkey2
This ship seems like it could be a carrier/frigate hybrid. The cargo section could be retrofitted to carry starfighters
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Richard Ched
What is the max Cargo capacity in Tons?
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STONEhenk
Fractal, do you realistic think these containers can be moved by the utility tug from the x-wing game? That workpod you make in a low poly model a while ago.
These things look much faster than star galleons. I imagine these container transports jumping from system to system with their fast hyperdrives to deliver priority cargo to star destroyers.
SSD Executor ordering: 1000 x replacement crew for those who failed vader. LOL.
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Jedi Wolf
Looks like the rebels modified the dreadnaught class heavy cruiser AGAIN this time as a transport lol why wouldn’t they there always running and need supplies 😜
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gorkmalork
Wasn’t the Dread a Rendili-manufactured ship? Plus, very different sizes & engine pod layout.
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RObb
How many metric tons of cargo can it hold.
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Bob
10’s of thousands I think, maybe much more. Fractal posted the size of those containers down thread a bit, each are 32 meters long, the ship is over 400 meters long.
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Hecatomb
Does this vessel have a class name? Or a Corellian-style designation?
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Bob
We call it the CEC YZ-2200 heavy transport, the Galactic civil war precursor to the legacy era YZ-2500. We commissioned this design for our house RPG session, and the one in game play is named “Truculent”.
It can but not in any great luxury. Certainly can be refitted to accommodate a LOT of passengers but it’s primarily a cargo ship.
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AzureOwl
And what kind of crew complement are we talking about normally?
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Bob
Talking with Ansel, in a normal merchant configuration, about 80, I’m assumimg shuttle and tug pilots are additional. In a configuration as an (up) armed merchantman, it could have 6 additional point defense weapons bolted on, each would require a gunner, I’d guess. If it has the cargo hold plated over to turn it into an escort carrier, you’d add the pilots and maintenance crews for the starfighter compliment, and presumably it would carry a small marine or security detachment. I envisioned it having a dozen or so lifter droids for cargo handling, along with the utility tugs in a… Read more »
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Bob
I’ll just add the inspiration for the commission was the concept of East Indiamen ships from 18th century history, capable of being armed as frigates, so they could defend themselves from pirates, or hostile navies in time of war. They typically travelled in a convoy, with a couple of actual warship escorts. The EU inspiration was the CEC 2500, which is a legacy era ship of this type, used as frigates (see “Pride of Corellia”), and in the game this was commissioned for (private FFG Star Wars campaign), this was a Rebellion era fore-runner we were calling a CEC 2200.
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Bob
Should read YZ 2500.
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gorkmalork
Technical elaboration appreciated. I’m liking this craft’s general balance of useful-looking thrusters, quasi-streamlined cargo capability & a hull plan that isn’t ‘homogenized space cylinder/rectangle with engines & bridge’.
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Beersatron
Armament? 6 Quad Medium Turbolasers? 1 under the chin, one on the top spine and 2 on each “wing”?
Does it have the ability to land on the surface? I presume not, as I see no obvious landing gear bays.
Yes, and no it can’t land in the sense that there’s gear (there’s always repulsorlift) . Those blocked the cargo bay, and really with this kind of ship you’d drop off the container load in orbit and have an elevator take them to the surface or something.
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valoren
landing gears aren’t an absolute necessity when landing on a planet surface, most transport ships make use of repulsorlifts and specialized docks. Just look at the AA9.
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JamesMCGR
Are the containers similar sized to a container for our world?
No, they’re ~32x12x12m, while a TEU is 20 feet (6.1 m) long, 8 feet (2.44 m) wide, and 8 feet 6 inches (2.59 m). So they’re a lot bigger. Remember the ship is over 400m long.
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Spaceman 28
How big are these containers compared to the ones shown in the FSCV? Or are they the same? Or those even containers?
The containers in the FSCV are even bigger – >50m. Though there are some smaller cubical containers in the FSCV that are smaller.
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Arvenski
An “armed merchantman”. Cool. If these things were fairly common in the galaxy (as I’d expect they’d be), I’d imagine the Rebels would’ve pressed a bunch of them into service as frigates.
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AlexHurlbut
Lucrehulk is one. From massive freighters to battleships in Phantom Menace and Clone Wars.
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gorkmalork
Certainly seem a bit more fit for the task than many official OT-era Alliance acquisitions. I’d be sorely tempted to conceal a fistful of capital-grade & several dozen PD missile tubes/box-launchers in that cargo-cell cluster.
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TheIcthala
That could be a highly effective Q-Ship loadout.
Alternatively, if subtlety isn’t a priority, one could mount higher capacity box launchers to adapted cargo hard points to make a powerful strike vessel.
Or possibly a hangar bay to fill a light carrier role.
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TheIcthala
It looks to already have a small (maybe squadron sized, probably mainly for shuttles) hangar aft of the cargo attachment area. Although, as you said, a large, modular hangar attachment would make it into a decent medium/light carrier.
There would have to be docking collars for personnel transfer between the hangar and the ship but, if they’re not there already, I doubt they’re beyond the skill of Alliance engineers.
There is a small hangar aft of the bay. Approximately 1 TIE/ln squadron + small shuttle (like a Mu). Can’t fit a Lambda. Rebel fighters – depends, but flight of XW is quite doable. Shame they’re not rackmount, otherwise there’s volume for a racked squadron. As a merchant it probably wouldn’t carry fighters at all – just tugs/workpods and light shuttles, and rely on guns for defense. Plate in the entire cargo bay and turn it into a hangar and you have a half-Ton Falk.
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gorkmalork
Presuming I had my relative pick of alphabet birds & was looking to make this ship a full light frigate/carrier for convoy-raid support: maybe 3 squads A-or E-wing or 2 + one dedicated bomber/gunboat unit, unless someone else brought a Quasar Fire or something to haul the latter element.
Speaking of A-wings, too bad they’re not really shaped in an especially rack-grippable manner, ’cause their vertical footprint might actually be less than an /ln or squint.
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Shaun
You mean like this: /revision/latest?cb=20081001132258
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gorkmalork
Good catch. I was way too fixated on the supposed difficulty of reworking TIE-compatible grippers for such different shapes. Totally forgot about tractors & magnetic shenanigans.
Tug pilots are the secret heroes behind it all!
If you’d like to include a utility tug for scale comparison I would be happy to provide my model for further use (https://countvertex.tumblr.com). Modelled in Blender, though, and probably needs some work to get it up to your standards.
Would this thing have been used to send important shipments to distant garrisons in pirate controlled areas of space, or just as a general transport? Wondering.
I would love it if you came up with a history of who/what and when it was built for and by whom. Specs would be awesome as well. Length, height, mass, weaponry, power outputs , personnel etc etc.
This ship seems like it could be a carrier/frigate hybrid. The cargo section could be retrofitted to carry starfighters
What is the max Cargo capacity in Tons?
Fractal, do you realistic think these containers can be moved by the utility tug from the x-wing game? That workpod you make in a low poly model a while ago.
Yes
These things look much faster than star galleons. I imagine these container transports jumping from system to system with their fast hyperdrives to deliver priority cargo to star destroyers.
“Star Destroyer Avenger ordering 3 containers mouse droids, 3 containers administrative droids and 2 containers astromech droids.”
SSD Executor ordering: 1000 x replacement crew for those who failed vader. LOL.
Looks like the rebels modified the dreadnaught class heavy cruiser AGAIN this time as a transport lol why wouldn’t they there always running and need supplies 😜
Wasn’t the Dread a Rendili-manufactured ship? Plus, very different sizes & engine pod layout.
How many metric tons of cargo can it hold.
10’s of thousands I think, maybe much more. Fractal posted the size of those containers down thread a bit, each are 32 meters long, the ship is over 400 meters long.
Does this vessel have a class name? Or a Corellian-style designation?
We call it the CEC YZ-2200 heavy transport, the Galactic civil war precursor to the legacy era YZ-2500. We commissioned this design for our house RPG session, and the one in game play is named “Truculent”.
oh cool can you post full specs?
Hey Fractal, Is it okay to use your creation’s as inspiration for my own? Not down right copy them, but use their shaping, weapon placement, ect?
Interesting. I like it
Thank you for the size information
Couldn’t agree more!
Beautiful work as usual!
So Fractal since this is a transport i wonder if you could do more transport ships like the BFF-1 Bulk Freighter?
Does it carry passengers too? Or just cargo?
It can but not in any great luxury. Certainly can be refitted to accommodate a LOT of passengers but it’s primarily a cargo ship.
And what kind of crew complement are we talking about normally?
Talking with Ansel, in a normal merchant configuration, about 80, I’m assumimg shuttle and tug pilots are additional. In a configuration as an (up) armed merchantman, it could have 6 additional point defense weapons bolted on, each would require a gunner, I’d guess. If it has the cargo hold plated over to turn it into an escort carrier, you’d add the pilots and maintenance crews for the starfighter compliment, and presumably it would carry a small marine or security detachment. I envisioned it having a dozen or so lifter droids for cargo handling, along with the utility tugs in a… Read more »
I’ll just add the inspiration for the commission was the concept of East Indiamen ships from 18th century history, capable of being armed as frigates, so they could defend themselves from pirates, or hostile navies in time of war. They typically travelled in a convoy, with a couple of actual warship escorts. The EU inspiration was the CEC 2500, which is a legacy era ship of this type, used as frigates (see “Pride of Corellia”), and in the game this was commissioned for (private FFG Star Wars campaign), this was a Rebellion era fore-runner we were calling a CEC 2200.
Should read YZ 2500.
Technical elaboration appreciated. I’m liking this craft’s general balance of useful-looking thrusters, quasi-streamlined cargo capability & a hull plan that isn’t ‘homogenized space cylinder/rectangle with engines & bridge’.
Armament? 6 Quad Medium Turbolasers? 1 under the chin, one on the top spine and 2 on each “wing”?
Does it have the ability to land on the surface? I presume not, as I see no obvious landing gear bays.
Yes, and no it can’t land in the sense that there’s gear (there’s always repulsorlift) . Those blocked the cargo bay, and really with this kind of ship you’d drop off the container load in orbit and have an elevator take them to the surface or something.
landing gears aren’t an absolute necessity when landing on a planet surface, most transport ships make use of repulsorlifts and specialized docks. Just look at the AA9.
Are the containers similar sized to a container for our world?
No, they’re ~32x12x12m, while a TEU is 20 feet (6.1 m) long, 8 feet (2.44 m) wide, and 8 feet 6 inches (2.59 m). So they’re a lot bigger. Remember the ship is over 400m long.
How big are these containers compared to the ones shown in the FSCV? Or are they the same? Or those even containers?
The containers in the FSCV are even bigger – >50m. Though there are some smaller cubical containers in the FSCV that are smaller.
An “armed merchantman”. Cool. If these things were fairly common in the galaxy (as I’d expect they’d be), I’d imagine the Rebels would’ve pressed a bunch of them into service as frigates.
Lucrehulk is one. From massive freighters to battleships in Phantom Menace and Clone Wars.
Certainly seem a bit more fit for the task than many official OT-era Alliance acquisitions. I’d be sorely tempted to conceal a fistful of capital-grade & several dozen PD missile tubes/box-launchers in that cargo-cell cluster.
That could be a highly effective Q-Ship loadout.
Alternatively, if subtlety isn’t a priority, one could mount higher capacity box launchers to adapted cargo hard points to make a powerful strike vessel.
Or possibly a hangar bay to fill a light carrier role.
It looks to already have a small (maybe squadron sized, probably mainly for shuttles) hangar aft of the cargo attachment area. Although, as you said, a large, modular hangar attachment would make it into a decent medium/light carrier.
There would have to be docking collars for personnel transfer between the hangar and the ship but, if they’re not there already, I doubt they’re beyond the skill of Alliance engineers.
There is a small hangar aft of the bay. Approximately 1 TIE/ln squadron + small shuttle (like a Mu). Can’t fit a Lambda. Rebel fighters – depends, but flight of XW is quite doable. Shame they’re not rackmount, otherwise there’s volume for a racked squadron. As a merchant it probably wouldn’t carry fighters at all – just tugs/workpods and light shuttles, and rely on guns for defense. Plate in the entire cargo bay and turn it into a hangar and you have a half-Ton Falk.
Presuming I had my relative pick of alphabet birds & was looking to make this ship a full light frigate/carrier for convoy-raid support: maybe 3 squads A-or E-wing or 2 + one dedicated bomber/gunboat unit, unless someone else brought a Quasar Fire or something to haul the latter element.
Speaking of A-wings, too bad they’re not really shaped in an especially rack-grippable manner, ’cause their vertical footprint might actually be less than an /ln or squint.
You mean like this:
/revision/latest?cb=20081001132258
Good catch. I was way too fixated on the supposed difficulty of reworking TIE-compatible grippers for such different shapes. Totally forgot about tractors & magnetic shenanigans.
Tug pilots are the secret heroes behind it all!
If you’d like to include a utility tug for scale comparison I would be happy to provide my model for further use (https://countvertex.tumblr.com). Modelled in Blender, though, and probably needs some work to get it up to your standards.
I would like to see the half-Ton Falk variant someday if you want to make it Fractal.