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Mr. Mills

Have you ever though of doing (this might be blaspheme) the Enterprise from Star Trek The Motion Picture?

PauloMr
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PauloMr

Hey I’m new here but I’ve seen a lot of your work. I’m extremely impressed, I wished lucasfilm just canonized everything you put out.
From what I’ve seen I can only guess you are more of a Empire fan but I’d like to see your take on the T 85 x wing since no official design has been put out. The T 70 is my current favorite ship and I just can’t wait to see it’s successor. I have my own vision of the craft but have next to no experience with 3D modeling or drawing.

Storm Commando
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Storm Commando

“Sketch up” is very easy to use and I actually modelled an X-Wing fuselage quite easily, as one of my first models. Give it a try you might enjoy it.

PapaLawson
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PapaLawson

Looks like an amped-up Acclamator, maybe the Acclamator III made by an Imperial Remnant or GA? Possible Legacy era? I love it.

Cetaman
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Cetaman

Presumably related to the pure-combat models seen in Tales and the Republic comic series. (Also the later DE cover)

Storm Commando
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Storm Commando

I think it’s pre-clone Wars and the Acclamator was a military transport variant of it, according to FS. But I can definitely see the FO and GE using a refitted version of it… it looks like an easy-to-finance little ISD substitute for backwater patrol duties.

PhantomFury
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PhantomFury

Sweet sublights! Though, I got ask, Fractal, do you not usually mirror your models during the details-filling part of the creation stage?

Bob
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Bob

Awesome! Here is a question, would the hyperdrive rating be similar to the Acclamator, or would this be ‘slower’ than its follow on because it has more mass?

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

I have zero idea how this effects hyperdrive, but I get the impression Acclamator lost a couple of this design’s sublight thrusters for more troop/armor space, so they’d have about the same power-to-weight ratio.

StormCommando
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StormCommando

I’d imagine it actually has a HIGHER power-to-weight because engines need to be able to propel more than their own mass, and it looks as if the void spaces have been replaced with engines, which probably makes this ship a lot faster. Adding engines, even if you’re replacing empty space, could only possibly increase the power-to-weight ratio.

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

Eh, presumably this ship was packing a denser powerplant & more capacitors/related equipment to support its higher heavy-turret count. Replacing much of that with barracks & hangar space would result in some notable weight loss on Acclamator’s part.

CRMcNeill
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CRMcNeill

The general read I get from the EU is that, while size has little effect on relative hyperspace speed, there is a minimum size limit on what sort of vessel can be equipped with a hyperdrive, and that size limit is what bottlenecks the sorts of ships that can have hyperdrives. As such, this ship could easily mount a hyperdrive as fast as an X-Wing, depending on how much internal space the designers felt like allotting for that purpose.

Steve Bannon
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Steve Bannon

While folks can debate the nature of how mass and power affect hyperdrive speeds all week, maybe we can look at it from a doctrinal standpoint. As a pre-Clone Wars unit designed for peacetime operations, the original configuration probably doesn’t place an emphasis on strategic mobility if they’re primarily being used in Great Power disputes happening at the speed of conference diplomacy. If we work with the idea that true supercapital ships like Mandators had artificially limited hyperdrives, their escorts probably wouldn’t need exceptional hyperspeed or range as well. The ships that actually need good hyperdrives to regularly respond to… Read more »

CRMcNeill
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CRMcNeill

That’s certainly a possibility. My point was more that any sort of speed restrictions on a ship this size wouldn’t be related to the limits of technology. Doctrine and economy, on the other hand, are far more likely culprits.

Bob
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Bob

On the other hand, this might be the right size of ship to act as a patrol gunboat for the Outer Rim as an independent asset, akin to a 4th or 5th rate in the age of sail.

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

Certainly seems like enough ship to deal with most pirate complaints short of Black Sun/Hutt-scale malignance, and CIS designs don’t seem to decisively edge it out until we hit things like the Providence class.

RhysT
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RhysT

It really depends on which version of the Recuscant class we’re talking about. If we’re talking about the standard model I’d agree. If we’re talking about that ‘mutant’ giant version grievous runs around on in the episode of the clone wars called ‘Grievous Intrigue’, then probably not. As I recall *that* specimen managed to best a Venator at one point allowing Grievous to board it and generally beat up clones, capture Eeth Koth and spit in the Republic’s eye. Most people forget about that ship, and who can blame them? It was incongruously large and only in one episode after… Read more »

keb
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keb

Actually the big version of the Recusant (2,544 meters long according to SW:TCW Incredible Vehicles) routinely appeared in multiple episodes of The Clone Wars.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Recusant-class_light_destroyer#Appearances

RhysT
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RhysT

Huh, good to know. I have watched the show, but I guess the details are beginning to blur after so long? Still, the two design standards make discussing that group of ships a little confusing.

Steve Bannon
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Steve Bannon

From an out of universe perspective, the lack of consistency and laziness is annoying, but I’m somewhat tempted to come up with an in-universe explanation. Perhaps a few of these oversized Recusants were built to mimic their smaller counterparts for special operational roles, sort of like an IRL Q-ship. Specialized ELINT and jamming kit could also minimize their heat, neutrino, and radio emissions. From a cursory long range scan, they would appear to be far smaller standard Recusants, which would then entice Republic destroyer squadrons into a losing engagement. After the trick was played a few times, the Republic would… Read more »

Valoren
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Valoren

We also have a single appearance of a twice-as-long version of the Providence-class used as a flagship by Trench during the battle of Christophsis.

Bob
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Bob

Invisible Hand was also supposed to be larger.

Cetaman
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Cetaman

IH is always a standard-length providence in every single source, I don’t know why so many people assume its the Battleship version.

StormCommando
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StormCommando

You can see when it goes against the Guarlara it’s basically the same size. It’s 100% the 1km version.

Shaun
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Shaun

Doesn’t help when the episodes jumped around chronologically, either.

Joshua
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Joshua

In contrast to the base Acclamator-class assault ship, it’s two other engines next to the base or center of the rear are pretty much the same size and perhaps have the same power output, so in my eyes this might even be faster than the base Acclamator, even with the added mass.

I just wonder whether this is to be an Acclamator II-class or even III-class! I am disappointed when it’s an “updated with more firepower”, but you can’t really tell the difference, here however it is completely evident. And it’s gorgeous! I can’t wait to see the completed design.