Scout/Courier WIP#1

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This is what I very affectionately call the WTF-Wing. I took the Nebulon Ranger concept from the old Jedi comics and concepted it out a LOT. The original had this super cool asymmetry but didn’t make any sense with regard to how the engines were set up only on one side away from all the mass (it should just spin in circles). Plus the scale was a bit ambiguous – is it a starfighter? freighter sized? So I took the general vibe of the design, swapped the wing side because why not, and scaled it at transport scale – it’s about the overall structural volume of an Assault Transport, but obviously hideously inefficiently distributed. I then adjusted the massing forms to make it look like it had thrust balance, and spent a lot of time figuring out how it would land in a cool way. Fly asymmetrical, land symmetrical.

I figured it could be military or civilian, but either way it would be a fast scout/courier/prospector/survey ship – modifiable and probably often heavily modified, but that circular dish seemed like a sensor so I went with that and added more sensors to fit. The “head” is the crew compartment, and there’s an engineering deck above and to starboard under the sensor elements, and the bottom bay is a cargo and maybe light vehicle storage area. If it were an RPG ship, room for a party of 6 very comfortably (I have a whole backstory for the interior layout now). It’ll spend a lot of time in space, so needs an airlock – there’s an extendable one aft to interface with ships and stations without landing. For scale the front-most center windows are about standing human height and the whole thing is ~33m long.

Power density could potentially be high (it’ll use >50% volume for power and propulsion on Assault Transport volume, which already had starfighter performance while probably using 25-30% volume for power systems). OK shields but nowhere near the same firepower – it’s not a ship designed to fight. Ultralight turbolasers – good against starfighters and transports, totally useless against capital ships. The design allows for some reasonably good firing arcs though. Compare against an ATR, which has 4 light turbolasers, 4 comparable ion, and a heavy warhead load.

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Lazar baruk
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Great. A very unexpected choice. But dear to my heart – http://starwars.sethmes.com/2011/01/30/les-attaques-du-lazar-toujours/

Stargazer
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Stargazer

Hmm, I actually like the ‘landing configuration’ version quite a bit. It would make a good base for an AWACS type shuttle design. The center circle would be like a radome on a modern day AWACS. Also, the slanted wings in that configuration could easily be conceived as a phased array sensor system, making it one of the only cases I can think of where a ‘wing’ structure could be justified on a space craft

Toddimus5
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Toddimus5

Only Jedi would be — enlightened enough — to fly something that wild.

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

I’ll confess to being no huge fan of extreme starship asymmetry, but way to render this thing capable of straight-line thrust & a plausible landing configuration.

Toddimus5
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Toddimus5

Do you see the LAAT\i resemblance when it’s in lander mode?

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

Vaguely.

DanielShenise
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I like that stacked, over/under gun mount. Totally outside the box and really cool.

Ryan Ferguson
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Ryan Ferguson

Hey fractal have you ever considered doing the Megador?

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

That strikes me as way too much of an undertaking sans someone ponying up.

Daib
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Daib

For all we know, Fractal has already done Megador. Both the Bellator and the Legator fit the available information.

Ryan Ferguson
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Ryan Ferguson

Actually the megador has 16 engines, which neither the bellator or the assertor or the legator have. The megador is a unique type of ssd that we have never seen before.

PhantomFury
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PhantomFury

16 ion engines, at least fifty-one hangar bays, 5-19km long…primary armament being 3 turbolaser batteries that has the firepower that eclipses the combined firepower of 5 ISD-IIs…. I am an absolute noob at the level of power calculations and it’s relation to volume, but with that many hangars and support infrastructure to support the fighters in that said hangars… The ship’s stats feels like quite a stretch without some changes. (In this regards, if someone could link me source materials of the calculations to get me started, presumably by Curtis Saxton, I’d greatly appreciate it)

PhantomFury
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PhantomFury

Edit: it appears that even if ISD-II were to use all its reactor output to weaponry (which won’t happen), five of them would still only make >4.64×10^25 W of power, which is still far less than the >7.73×10^26 W of the Executor-class, so its…possible to use the remainder for other subsystems…?

Thomas He
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Thomas He

Wow…what’s the mechanism that allows the big wing to swing down? Is it like a…giant magnet?

PhoenixKnight
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PhoenixKnight

Look closely at the pics third one up you see a hydraulic piston

Ryadra777
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I can see why you call it the WTF wing but nonetheless it is nice to see a scout ship be made.
Although it did make me think 2 things that could happen.
1. Will you still call it the Nebulon Ranger or a different name?
2. If the Galactic Empire use it as a Scout ship would that make the TIE Scout obsolete or not?

JFKrol2
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JFKrol2

I doubt if that ship has hyperdrive and sensor equipment that could match TIE Scout as it was designed over 5000 years before TIE series

Shaun
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Shaun

1. It’s the Yandroth Bard… Or maybe the Attuma Paladin… Or maybe keep the Ranger. The Attuma Ranger has a nice ring to it…
2. No. A) The Imperials don’t necessarily have to use everything that Ansel creates; and B) if they did, it’s an entirely different ship than a TIE/sc with a completely different scouting role than what the TIE would play.

Shaun
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Shaun

Also, upvotes to anyone who gets the references…

Shaun
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Shaun

YES!!!
[That’s all. Just YES!!!]

countvertex
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Warning! Don’t try to figure out how it transforms from flying to landing configuration – it will give you a bad headache!

Daib
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Daib

Was this a commissioned piece?

Taghmata Omnissiah
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Taghmata Omnissiah

Praise the Omnissiah! The long forgotten tech is back in our hands!

PhantomFury
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PhantomFury

Ooh, I have always liked that odd ball ship from the Old Republic (even if I can’t always list it when ask for favorites) so I’m excited at this interpretation! What Era will this ship reside in?