Tyrant missile cruiser WIP#1

A commissioned piece for this idea from the Warlords mod. Talking to evillejedi (the original designer), the ship was an idea for a late-Republic torpedo sphere sort of, with secondary fleet functions. Long and thin to minimize profile and a heavy warhead system. I’ve taken that concept and developed it a bit, with the main missile battery in a fixed and separate annular compartment away from the hull. Power should end up being ~2-3 ISD, so barely a cruiser, which is fitting given the very thin hull (I expect the reactor to be fully buried). Fast, well shielded, but not a slugger.

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Duggy
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Duggy

Could you please tell me what the length, weapons, and fighter capacity of this plane is?

AT-AT
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AT-AT

Can the Missile launchers be reloaded?
Because it looks like there is Not enough space to carry More of them inside. So I just wonder what the crew does when they run out of rockets

Sephiroth0812
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Sephiroth0812

Beyond the missiles this ship also features 48 Venator-style Dual Heavy Turbolaser Turrets (24 on each side) so it can still dish out some punishment even when it has fired all its missiles.
I’m also sure it has some medium cannons scattered around the hull and possibly some point defense emplacements against fighters as well.

Sephiroth0812
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Sephiroth0812

I think I know this ship class from the “Rise of the Mandalorians”-mod of Empire at War: Forces of Corruption. There it is called the Tyrant-class Star Destroyer and a sort of heavy missile destroyer which is yet faster than the Victory I-class.
The circle-like missile-batteries in the midsection are certainly a creative idea and give it a sort of immediate unique appearance feature.

PhoenixKnight
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PhoenixKnight

This is from that

Sephiroth0812
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Sephiroth0812

The more you know. 😉 I do have to admit though that I didn’t know this ship-class is supposed to be also used by the Clone Wars-era Republic according to the original idea for it. I am all for giving the Republic fleet a little variety but I’m a little skeptical on the naming. “Tyrant-class” doesn’t sound like something the Republic would have named, it sounds more definitely Imperial in origin. Legator, Mandator, Praetor, Procurator, Imperator, Venator, Victory, Acclamator, Proclamator etc. all fit a sort of theme for the Republic, some having an aggressive subtext without being already outright oppressive… Read more »

PhoenixKnight
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PhoenixKnight

first I thought it was mid or early Imperial is well

PhantomFury
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PhantomFury

Right, Tyrant-class sounds rather harsh for a Republic ship now that you mention it. It fits more to call it something like… Arbiter-class, or maybe Prosecutor-class

Sephiroth0812
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Sephiroth0812

I mean that’s what the class is originally called as it is a fanon ship created for a video game mod, so it’s logical to apply the intended name, yet I do think that since the Empire renamed the Imperator-class to Imperial-class maybe they renamed this one as well and Tyrant-class is its designation under the Empire alone. These names would fit the Republic naming theme, especially the second one. I had thought about perhaps calling it Iaculator-class which would also fit the usual Republic name scheme. Iaculator means thrower or hurler (often in conjunction with spears or javelins) in… Read more »

Sephiroth0812
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Sephiroth0812

Yea, it’s named like it is in the original source. Funditor or Sagittor would also work well for the Republic variant. Funditor is another word that means “thrower” in latin and Sagittor comes from Sagittarius, the archer, which also fits this ship’s main role.
I’m just grateful you even make such fanon designs as your take on it often improves the original design in terms of quality. I quite like how this turns out.

countvertex
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I like it! Let’s be honest – most Star Destroyer derived models look more or less the same. This one is a good mix of deviation and recognition factor.

PhantomFury
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PhantomFury

By the way, may I ask what is the class system in use here? It clearly isn’t a cruiser from the Anaxes war collage system… I’ve heard its in relation to modern ship classification with its size ratio, which makes the most sense in this case, just looking to confirm.

TheIcthala
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TheIcthala

As I understand it, it’s pretty much standard wet navy classification (c.a. WWII) applied to space ships with the ISD being a typical destroyer.

keb
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keb

It’s worth pointing out that the Separatist classification system is very close to what is used here. The Munificent is a frigate, the Recusants seen in ROTS are light destroyers, the 2,544 meter long Recusants that appear in TCW are simply called destroyers (in the episode “ARC Troopers”) and the 4,800 meter long Malevolence is a Subjugator-class heavy cruiser.

Chris
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Chris

That is a whole heck of alot of beat down. As much as I like your work are there any NON-Imperial ships coming up on the docket?? Dauntless/Marsheem-Class, the forked Liberator-Class or the Aggressor-Class Destroyer?? I would love to see a conventionally armed Aggressor without that giant Ion/Plasma cannon.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Marsheem-class_heavy_cruiser
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Liberator-class_cruiser
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Aggressor-class_Star_Destroyer

Bob
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Bob

The fastest way to see one is to commission Ansel to create one.

Cdr. Rajh
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Cdr. Rajh

Although I will point out that the ISD-style bridge module stands out too much, perhaps moving it a bit lower into that central ridge would be more visually appealing…

Steve Bannon
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Steve Bannon

The bridge tower stands out far more on a standard ISD than this ship. As a percentage of ship volume and height, this bridge is downright inconspicuous compared to a stock Imperator.

Cdr. Rajh
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Cdr. Rajh

Never heard of missile spam? Well…

CRMcNeill
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CRMcNeill

In a nutshell, barraging a target with more missiles than its shields, armor and point defenses can intercept/deflect.

Thomas
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Thomas

this is just awesome

jonathan
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jonathan

my god…its beautiful

PhoenixKnight
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PhoenixKnight

Insert Rogue one Meme here

SpaceCoyote300
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SpaceCoyote300

Do you think the silos could be configured to launch Stormtrooper drop-pods?

TheIcthala
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TheIcthala

They look to be more than a deck’s height in bore, so it’s not completely out of the question size wise, but they may not be accessible to crew.

ManiacalSpark
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ManiacalSpark

I like the main hull shape until it gets to the rear of the ship. Then it flares out too much in proportion to the rest of the design. I would have had them flare out, then hook back in at roughly were the middle of the gun batteries are. Give it more of a Executor SSD tail. Another problem is that the missile ring just does not fit aesthetically with the angular shape of the ship. It would be better just to line the ship with port and starboard launchers or multiple vertical launch arrays along the length of… Read more »

keb
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keb

This is a commission for a ship that already exists in a computer game mod. It’s likely that Fractal doesn’t have much freedom to make big changes in the basic design or shape.

ManiacalSpark
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ManiacalSpark

I see. Hopefully the mod developer will see my comment and take my suggestions into account. I really like the overall basic shape of this design, but it has some problems. They could be some easily fixable problems, but overall I think the ship design would be better off otherwise.

JamesMCGR
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JamesMCGR

So if you can do better, let’s see it then.

ManiacalSpark
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ManiacalSpark

Really mature. If you actually read what I had to say, you’d see it is CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, not just ‘lol this sucks’. Critiquing is how things get better. The design has a lot of promise, but it also has some problems. That’s ok, because nothing and no one is perfect. I offered my thoughts on how to make it look and feel like it belongs in the Imperial Navy (a fictional construct from a fictional universe. These suggestions were offered in a polite and constructive manner, in the hopes that FractalSponge could use his talents to make a better starship… Read more »

TheIcthala
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TheIcthala

Your critique is well written, but I believe it’s at least partly based on a couple of incorrect assumptions. First: Scale When Fractal says a ship is cruiser scale, he means it’s significantly larger than an ISD (~4.1km long in this case, according to PhoenixKnight, below). He uses a system in which Star Destroyers equate to real life wet navy destroyers in role and relative size, with other ship classifications being adjusted in scale accordingly. In Fractal’s classification system the Arquitens would class as either a large corvette or a small frigate. Given the above, I think the gun batteries… Read more »

cScott
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cScott

At first, I was like what the heck is this, but now I keep finding myself drawn back in to keep looking at it. I like it, it’s very Imperial looking but at the same time it isn’t. I’ve always wondered if an Impellor-class ship could also be used in this sorta role, like if the forward prongs were retrofitted to carry missile batteries instead of hanger bays.

PhantomFury
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PhantomFury

Very unique ship and concept, though I got a few questions: if it’s primarily a warhead reliant ship from late-Republic era, how does it got more output than an ISD? (I always thought ISD were cutting edge at the time of its release) Also what does it need 2-3 ISDs worth of power generation for? Aforementioned shields and speed?

STONEhenk
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STONEhenk

Count the heavy turbolasers. Looks like the same as on the Venator-class but 48 of them instead of 8. Fractal estimated the 8 turbolasers of the Venator with a yield of 70 teraton a barrel, and the turbolasers of the ISD-1 on 175 teraton a barrel. Giving this ship a turbolaser output of 48*2*70= 6720 teraton. While the turbolasers + ions of the ISD-1 have a primary weapon output of 2800 teraton.

PhantomFury
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PhantomFury

Fair point.

DanielShenise
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I like the overall shape, long and thin, just something about massing of the ring seems off to me. I almost think the ring ought to be a solid short cylinder and not a hollow ring. More like the modular task force cruiser from DE. Maybe positioning it higher vertically too so it’s even less imbedded in the main hull. I do think more antennas would be a good idea too. I love the way they looked on your VicStar.

Bob
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Bob

What sort of a support ship feeds this beast? Given the size of those silos, and e slenderness of the hull, it would seem likely to only carry a reload or two, and might need some munitions carrier to follow it about to provide enough ammunition for a prolonged bombardment.

PauloMr
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PauloMr

Don’t know how to feel about this one. It looks interesting and weird at the same time. I think it would be better if the missile batteries were engraved across the fuselage,as to not have them all in one spot(relatively speaking), but the drum does make sense for firing in multiple directions and if it rotates it could be better reloaded, by internal cargo containers. The only thing I’m certain you should add is more antennas and sensors for better targeting and maybe some decoys, somewhere (or a dedicated targeting, jamming and decoying ship) to prevent the warheads from being… Read more »

wusolja
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wusolja

One missile per silo or a cluster of missiles in each?

Vons Barador
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Vons Barador

OH GOD I REMEMBER THIS MODEL

PhoenixKnight
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PhoenixKnight

Is that good thing or bad thing

CRMcNeill
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CRMcNeill

Wow. That’s 320 individual tubes on each side of the ship if I got the count right. I don’t imagine this thing has anywhere near the magazine capacity of a Torpedo Sphere, but it wouldn’t need to: basically a drive-by bombardment platform to make a high-speed run past a target like a real-world WW1/2 era destroyer.

By rotary, are you saying that the tubes move in the mount, ala the turbolasers on a Hapan Battle Dragon?

CRMcNeill
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CRMcNeill

*340 (revised)

Ryadra777
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I honestly have no words for this just yikes!

Anyway what it’s length? It look like it is between 3-4km.

Also will the name Tyrant be it’s class name or not?

PhoenixKnight
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PhoenixKnight

It the name of the Class

PhoenixKnight
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PhoenixKnight

~4.1km

Shaun
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Shaun

Love those lines.

Jaunty and rakish like a mofo.

The Imp Star bridge is a little jarring, but taking in the overall profile and economies of scale, I can see why it makes sense. Fantastic work regardless.

All those tubes though… Would love to the deep space exploration/reconnaissance + exploratory science refit. Dedicated research labs + factory for churning out new probe droids, amped up comms + sensors…

Arvenski
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Arvenski

I agree about the bridge. From a distance it looks fine, though up close it looks kinda weird. If it’s an old Republic design, if Fractal wanted to he could go with a single Venator-style bridge instead.

PhoenixKnight
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PhoenixKnight

Just now noticed that it is a Vic’ Bridge

Shaun
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Shaun

I don’t think so. It’s in between a Vic I and ISD, maybe, but closer in scale to the ISD.

xXx
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xXx

When Victory I overdose steroids

Taghmata Omnissiah
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Taghmata Omnissiah

Not a fan of this design but you know who will love it, Orks…