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Skallord
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So how long is this beast?

Xeno
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Xeno

It’s built on a cruiser hull, so I’d guesstimate 3-4KM? Maybe 2.5-3 if it’s particularly small.

PhoenixKnight
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PhoenixKnight

~>4.1 km

hill
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hill

when you said missile cruiser you were not joking

Ryadra777
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Yeah now just imagine a missile Dreadnought! Pure Armageddon!

Valiran
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Valiran

This looks like someone from the Star Wars galaxy took inspiration from Macross and designed a ship with ALL THE MISSILES!

Zahn
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Zahn

I can’t help but see this as a mixture between Covenant cruisers from Halo and an Imperial Star Destroyer. Like the design, looking forward to the next update

ManiacalSpark
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ManiacalSpark

The bridge tower needs to be lower to the hull. Like keep the current Procurator design but have it start immediately at the slanted section without any of that additional decking. That would help it so much. I’m also going to say again that I think the rear needs to be more Super Star Destroyer in design, with a dovetail section. That will offset the narrowness of the forward hull and make the design look a bit more balanced.

PhoenixKnight
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PhoenixKnight

Tyrant is only ~4.1m long

Daib
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Daib

That… doesn’t sound quite right.

CMD-Voloth
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CMD-Voloth

Here’s a more accurate set of specs:

Name: Tyrant-class Missile Cruiser
Manufacturer: Kuat Drive Yards
Designation: Light Battlecruiser
Crew: 72,958 [640 Gunners]
Length: 4,600 meters
Speed: 40 MGLT
Hyper drive: x1
Weapons: 100 Heavy Hextuple Turbolaser Cannons, 16 Heavy Concussion Missile Launchers.
Fighter Complement: 3 Squadrons.
Troops: 4,500 Stormtroopers.
Support Craft: 12 Shuttles.

Hopefully this clears up some confusion.

V

CRMcNeill
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CRMcNeill

Source? Just for starters, it looks like a LOT more than 16 Heavy Concussion Missile Launchers to me…

Ryadra777
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Also it clearly isn’t Hextuple they are DUEL did you even look at the turrets properly?

Here the link to the turrets just in case you still don’t understand:
http://fractalsponge.net/?p=1260

PhoenixKnight
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PhoenixKnight

I think he looked up on Fan-o-pidia

Ryadra777
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Probability.

TheIcthala
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TheIcthala

They got the specs here:
http://nifrpg.net/irm/ships/tyrant.shtml
Note that these specs are described as apocryphal, i.e. of doubtful authenticity (Merriam-Webster’s definition).
Length, crew complement and carried craft complement may be accurate (though we’ve yet to see any bays on this ship), but the weapons specs were apparently written by someone who didn’t take the ‘missile cruiser’ part of the name seriously enough.
Also, having looked at the in game model, even that has 18 launchers.

Ryadra777
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Well it made sense for that model but not for this model.
Also I doubt it carry 3 squadrons of fighters that’s like around star frigate standard fighter complement. I think it carry around 2-4 fighter wings and few shuttle bays but no dropships and land vehicles.

Sephiroth0812
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Sephiroth0812

“Hex”tuple turrets? As in Turrets with whopping sixteen barrels? Yea no, I doubt such a thing is even logically possible nor desirable as having four Quad Turrets gives much more versatility than a single Hextuple one. I’m afraid I can’t take these stats seriously. Even if the 48 Venator-style heavy dual TL-turrets on this specific design are a creative design choice by Fractal (to emphasize its late-Republic origin) it is more realistic for the ship to have than ominous unknown Hextuple turrets.

Ryadra777
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Actually Sephiroth it is 6 barrels if it were 16 it would be called sedecuple or the alternative name hexadecad.
Also Hextuple is a alternative name for well… Sextuple.

AlexHalstead
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AlexHalstead

Or he was figuring on the “heavy” aspect to mean “big freaking anti-ship” missiles

Daib
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Daib

I think we can all agree that those stats are pretty meaningless and completely divorced from this render.

PhoenixKnight
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PhoenixKnight

That’s what it started with

PhoenixKnight
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PhoenixKnight

~4.1Km

Sephiroth0812
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Sephiroth0812

The Tyrant-class doesn’t have a dovetail section in its design to begin with. This isn’t a new design Fractal came up with but an already existing one of which even game models already exist. Changing the bridge design around doesn’t do much of a difference but you simply don’t go and change the entire hull layout around as that would change the entire form of the vessel making it no longer the design that was commissioned to be done.

PhoenixKnight
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PhoenixKnight

Sephiroth I agree, if we mess with the bridge where would the sensors be

Sephiroth0812
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Sephiroth0812

Like I said experimenting a bit with the bridge layout is certainly okay as it doesn’t completely change the overall form of the design, but changing the hull form would be a significant change which affects the entire package.
If it would be a totally original design this would also be feasible, but here we have an adaption of an already existing design even if it is ultimately a fanon one.

PhoenixKnight
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PhoenixKnight

*reread what I wrote* I agree with all you have said: plus,flattened the mass in around of the bridge displaces some of the equipment

KruelYn
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The command tower looks good and this cruiser looked like it came from the unkown regions.

Black Disciple
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Black Disciple

so ive been inspired by your designs and making similar star destroyers in avorion but this is definetly where i draw the line no way am i gonna be able to make that with voxels XD.

Phoenix
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Phoenix

So I was curious as to what the armament was for this was and I did some math and here is the number of missile tubes and turrets for those that are interested.

66 tubes up front by the nose in sets of 3 with 33 on each side

608 tubes in the middle in sets of 8 with 304 on each side

16 turrets up front in between each set of missile tubes with 8 on each side in batteries of 4.

32 turrets in the back by the bridge with 16 on each side grouped in batteries of 4

countvertex
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Do the missile silos on the front open up like on the Victory?

PhantomFury
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PhantomFury

From the distance it almost looks like the Munificent-class’s bridge. Interesting change!

RBorden
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RBorden

I think that if you shortened the front triangle on the ship by half it would look a lot better…

Overall I like the concept, but the entire length of the ship is too long……

Great Job

DanielShenise
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Definitely like this bridge tower more. 👍

Shaun
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Shaun

Agreed. Love the rougher/unrefined character of this vs. the Imp Star version.

Bob
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Bob

Looking menacing. I assume this would need a couple of munitions carriers for support to keep it in action for any length of time.

PhoenixKnight
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PhoenixKnight

do we have any designs of munition carriers?

Bob
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Bob

Fractal has designed two logistics ships, the Altor class and the Contentor class, but both are multi purpose ships, used for refueling and presumably carrying all the standard logistical support needed to keep ships and their crews going. Any freighter of large enough size can carry munitions, but perhaps there might be a dedicated design used to carry munitions specifically, and capable of loading them into launchers like these. Otherwise it would probably be very time consuming to reload the launchers.

PhoenixKnight
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PhoenixKnight

I picture munitions loaders on Tomahawk-cruise-missile launcher-ship

Bob
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Bob

Much, much larger missiles involved. It’s a problem for the US Navy today, with much smaller scale missiles. https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a27205/navy-reload-missile-silos-at-sea/

PhoenixKnight
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PhoenixKnight

See [Cruisemissile assault craft] Wookieepedia

CRMcNeill
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CRMcNeill

How does that apply here?

PhoenixKnight
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PhoenixKnight

Munitions loaders I picture what it may look like something similar to the cruise missile assault craft

CRMcNeill
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CRMcNeill

The cruisemissile assault craft is a one-man air support platform, according to the Wookieepedia write-up. How does that apply to reloading heavy missiles on something the size of the Tyrant?

PhoenixKnight
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PhoenixKnight

Yes but using the frame as an base we load the munitions and ordnance fast. Yes I know it not really big and large, but Tyrant doesn’t need to be loaded up on X-W size missiles all the time. Just at least something out there that might look ,and nearly act, like it will do the job

Bob
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Bob

Too small for the job. Even the smaller missiles for this would be akin to large ballistic missiles in naval usage. It would make more sense to have something in the Contentor size range, or a little smaller, that could approach the ring and load 2-8 at a time.

StormCommando
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StormCommando

I imagine there is an internal rail/repulsor system which loads the missiles from a main munitions store, so it can all be done internally and very, very quickly. Makes no sense to have small dinky craft milling about the outside, loading missiles from the outside while in combat.

PhoenixKnight
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PhoenixKnight

Like the MTT train from TCW?

StormCommando
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StormCommando

Yeah exactly – they have the technology. They can rebuild this ship…! (logically)

Taghmata Omnissiah
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Taghmata Omnissiah

Not a fan of design but that command tower, marvelous, just marvelous!

Cdr. Rajh
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Cdr. Rajh

I know the ventral hull is unfinished and all, but you think we could get a better angle on it? I’m curious about the overall lines of the ship.