Hey guys. A bit out of context but, there’s this AV-7 artillery pice of the republic. I think it was really effective, why don’t the rebels used smaller versions of it against AT-AT and such stuff? These „AV-7“ versions could work like a PAK from WW2 with little Legs or something.
what ya guys think absolut it?
The galaxy is big enough for the Rebels to use all sorts of equipment, it’s just that we didn’t see those ones. We dont ever see a line rebel formation, the movies are mostly about The Adventures of High Command Security Detachment or some commando units.
Basically, you can say that there were AV-7s or any reasonable variation of the concept and dont let anybody tell you otherwise.
Jack Masini
1 year ago
Man just think about how many ships could all start attacking from those docks at once
i wish there was a hybrid of the impellor and the asserter. well the firepower and size of the asserter and the carrying size of 2 impellors. that would defiantly be my flag ship. there should be a super star destroyer carrier hybrid and i hope one day you can make it F.S.
Looks like it’s covered in Octuple Barbettes, maybe a handful of smaller turrets.
Keenja96
6 years ago
just a thought, but considering your previous work on the secutor class star destroyer, which was itself essentially a dedicated carrier based off of the venator which has close to 3 times the number of fighters officially, how many fighters do you think the secutor class should have, or do you honestly believe that the 144 fighters cited by wikipedia isn’t positively puny for a dedicated carrier of that size?
I have no idea where 144 came from. That’s less than half of a Venator’s complement. I’m thinking Secutors would have on the order of 8+ wings, so from 500-700 fighters.
That was before I actually built the hangars. Also, wings is a bad measure of capacity. A wing of StarWing is much much much bigger than a wing of Interceptor. I tend to report wings as those of Interceptor or /ln sized craft, but clearly these ships can handle much bigger starfighters, so the actual numbers will vary a lot in service.
Ah ok then.
By away even though the Secutor can carry that many fighters to make it a carrier it is still a star heavy/pursuit destroyer, make me wonder what the Secutor carrier variant and it’s hangers would look like (If you are planning it or not).
It’s multirole, like Venators of similar vintage were multirole. There’s no carrier variant planned, it just carries a lot of fighters, which are useful in a lot of ways, especially if the ship is acting as a flagship for hangar-less fleet destroyers or being sent to deal with surface actions.
Oh so now is multi-role instead of pursuit then huh.
Speaking of carriers what your’s thoughts on the Quasar Fire class cruiser-carrier (Bulk-carrier in legends)?
Well i’m saying i was surprised that you originally make the Secutor either a heavy generalist destroyer or a pursuit ship and then your final choice was a multi-role ship that’s all.
Unless generalist is the same as multi-role and if so then you did choose the former.
This ship carries something like 1728 fighters according to Fractal, that’s 12 times as much as the Exectuor SSD which only carries 144 fighters. So this ship and the Lucrehulk are roughly equal. Lucrehulk carries something like 1500 Vulture droid fighters as I recall.
Soren
6 years ago
Wow, great ship!
Anyone have a good count on how many hangars that beauty has? I keep losing track of my count…
Anonymous
6 years ago
You said this carrier can hold up to 4 groups of 6 wings so does that mean that each group have 6 wings or these 6 wings are divided into 4 groups?
I have never seen the term “group” used in reference to Star Wars, but if you are basing the unit progression on modern air forces, the order is: Flight, Squadron, Group, Wing. At least that’s how the USAF organizes their unit progression.
The plan to use the Death Star to end the rebellion would have worked, forgive me I cant remember which post endor novel it was but essentially Luke had a vision of an alternate timeline where he failed to destroy the Death Star 1. The DS1 then proceeded to blow up Chandrilla and Mon Cala (My vague memory says there was another planet on the hitlist), then the Rebel Alliance to Restore the Republic as we know it simply faded into irrelevance. The Galactic Empire would then go on to defeat the Yhuuzan Vong with a 25 year preparatory peace.
Sean
7 years ago
What is the armament on this thing? I see some heavy turbolasers and lots of PD cannons, but I can’t count them all lol.
Yularen
7 years ago
That is simply amazing detail! Lucasfilm should hire you. Are there any plans to tackle either the Executor, Eclipse, or Sovereign per chance?
It’s about 3.5km long. Fighter complement is…enormous. Thousands. Because it dedicates a huge proportion of its volume to fighters, unlike things like the ISD.
You ain’t kidding. Besides those main frontal & ventral hangars, do I spy a pair of (relatively) teeny-tiny launch bays up in each prow-tip? Nice beefy engine cluster as well, and I suppose that fantail provides coverage for said nozzles in the event this thing has to actually orient & shoot at a peer opponent.
A lot more fighters than I had figured. I guessed it had to be close to a thousand, but thousands was beyond what I thought. As a dedicated carrier it would need other dedicated warships to protect against other capital ships i.e. Dreadnoughts. I imagine the fighter/bomber squadrons could handle smaller ships or maybe a single dreadnought if no other ships were involved. I was curious about the size though because in some of your new works where it is in formation with other ships it looks to be about slightly less than half the length of the Assertor class.
Those formation shots probably entail some ships being (much) closer to the ‘camera’ than others, hence the scale confusion without common elements (like, say, bridge towers) to compare.
dang if the rebels (in the animated series) took this ship, they would be set for their fleet, they would be able to sell the ties for parts and have room for their ships. Even keep some of the ties to use against the empire. Awesome job with the ship.
Hey guys. A bit out of context but, there’s this AV-7 artillery pice of the republic. I think it was really effective, why don’t the rebels used smaller versions of it against AT-AT and such stuff? These „AV-7“ versions could work like a PAK from WW2 with little Legs or something.
what ya guys think absolut it?
The galaxy is big enough for the Rebels to use all sorts of equipment, it’s just that we didn’t see those ones. We dont ever see a line rebel formation, the movies are mostly about The Adventures of High Command Security Detachment or some commando units.
Basically, you can say that there were AV-7s or any reasonable variation of the concept and dont let anybody tell you otherwise.
Man just think about how many ships could all start attacking from those docks at once
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This is an awesome ship but I wish I knew the size
3550m long.
I like the star destroyer vibe But I miss the octuple barbet turbolaser baterys on either side of the bridge
I Like the star destroyer Vibe But I dont like the lack of octuple barbet turbolasers on either side of the bridge. Yes I know it a support ship
that looks awesome! I wish i was good at starship making myself, but hey it’s an awesome carrier none the less
it looks like a super sized harrower sith dreadnought
on steroids
that looks like a Bellator dreadnought but with the center cut open for hangers, looks good! =)
What is the size of the ship
About 3.5k, scroll down a bit in the discussion.
i wish there was a hybrid of the impellor and the asserter. well the firepower and size of the asserter and the carrying size of 2 impellors. that would defiantly be my flag ship. there should be a super star destroyer carrier hybrid and i hope one day you can make it F.S.
What weaponry is on this behemoth
Looks like it’s covered in Octuple Barbettes, maybe a handful of smaller turrets.
just a thought, but considering your previous work on the secutor class star destroyer, which was itself essentially a dedicated carrier based off of the venator which has close to 3 times the number of fighters officially, how many fighters do you think the secutor class should have, or do you honestly believe that the 144 fighters cited by wikipedia isn’t positively puny for a dedicated carrier of that size?
I have no idea where 144 came from. That’s less than half of a Venator’s complement. I’m thinking Secutors would have on the order of 8+ wings, so from 500-700 fighters.
Wait Secutors can carry 8+ wings? I though it was 4-6 wings as you said here: http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?p=3406917#p3406917
That was before I actually built the hangars. Also, wings is a bad measure of capacity. A wing of StarWing is much much much bigger than a wing of Interceptor. I tend to report wings as those of Interceptor or /ln sized craft, but clearly these ships can handle much bigger starfighters, so the actual numbers will vary a lot in service.
Ah ok then.
By away even though the Secutor can carry that many fighters to make it a carrier it is still a star heavy/pursuit destroyer, make me wonder what the Secutor carrier variant and it’s hangers would look like (If you are planning it or not).
It’s multirole, like Venators of similar vintage were multirole. There’s no carrier variant planned, it just carries a lot of fighters, which are useful in a lot of ways, especially if the ship is acting as a flagship for hangar-less fleet destroyers or being sent to deal with surface actions.
Oh so now is multi-role instead of pursuit then huh.
Speaking of carriers what your’s thoughts on the Quasar Fire class cruiser-carrier (Bulk-carrier in legends)?
Anything that carries troops and fighters is multi-role to some extent. That’s a question of usage, not design specialization.
I like the Rebels Quasar Fire design. As a fighting ship it’s probably pretty useless on its own, but I love the look.
Well i’m saying i was surprised that you originally make the Secutor either a heavy generalist destroyer or a pursuit ship and then your final choice was a multi-role ship that’s all.
Unless generalist is the same as multi-role and if so then you did choose the former.
But is the Secutor still part pursuit ship due to it’s speed or not?
Hey which of these two ships can carry more fighters this one or the Lucrehulk?
This ship carries something like 1728 fighters according to Fractal, that’s 12 times as much as the Exectuor SSD which only carries 144 fighters. So this ship and the Lucrehulk are roughly equal. Lucrehulk carries something like 1500 Vulture droid fighters as I recall.
Wow, great ship!
Anyone have a good count on how many hangars that beauty has? I keep losing track of my count…
You said this carrier can hold up to 4 groups of 6 wings so does that mean that each group have 6 wings or these 6 wings are divided into 4 groups?
Group contains several Wings, so 4 Groups, each of 6 Wings, each typically of 6 Squadrons. I think that’s how it’s supposed to go anyway.
right and each squadron were 12 fighters so this all adds up to a whopping 1728 fighters. (12 fighters X 6 squadrons X 6 wings X 4 groups)
By away I wonder what 6 groups of fighters is equal to? Or is the group the largest formation of fighters you can get?
I have never seen the term “group” used in reference to Star Wars, but if you are basing the unit progression on modern air forces, the order is: Flight, Squadron, Group, Wing. At least that’s how the USAF organizes their unit progression.
There are other airforces besides the USAF. Empire/Commonwealth formations use Group, Wing, Squadron instead of Wing, Group, Squadron.
It would make more sense to be 4 wings, each with 6 groups, each with 6 squadrons of 12 fighters.
i wonder if this ship is more powerful than the ISD by how much?
In terms of firepower, no, but would easily be able to take on an ISD with that kind of complement.
In terms of Firepower it seems like it easily could. Just look at the amount of Heavy Turbolaser batteries all over the hull.
Funny thing, if the Empire would have operated these things enmasse instead of going Death star/SSD route the Rebellion would’ve never succeeded.
The plan to use the Death Star to end the rebellion would have worked, forgive me I cant remember which post endor novel it was but essentially Luke had a vision of an alternate timeline where he failed to destroy the Death Star 1. The DS1 then proceeded to blow up Chandrilla and Mon Cala (My vague memory says there was another planet on the hitlist), then the Rebel Alliance to Restore the Republic as we know it simply faded into irrelevance. The Galactic Empire would then go on to defeat the Yhuuzan Vong with a 25 year preparatory peace.
What is the armament on this thing? I see some heavy turbolasers and lots of PD cannons, but I can’t count them all lol.
That is simply amazing detail! Lucasfilm should hire you. Are there any plans to tackle either the Executor, Eclipse, or Sovereign per chance?
Technically, they did (he did some work that was officially published as part of, what is now, Star Wars Legends)
What is the fighter compliment and size of this ship? It looks very well done.
It’s about 3.5km long. Fighter complement is…enormous. Thousands. Because it dedicates a huge proportion of its volume to fighters, unlike things like the ISD.
You ain’t kidding. Besides those main frontal & ventral hangars, do I spy a pair of (relatively) teeny-tiny launch bays up in each prow-tip? Nice beefy engine cluster as well, and I suppose that fantail provides coverage for said nozzles in the event this thing has to actually orient & shoot at a peer opponent.
A lot more fighters than I had figured. I guessed it had to be close to a thousand, but thousands was beyond what I thought. As a dedicated carrier it would need other dedicated warships to protect against other capital ships i.e. Dreadnoughts. I imagine the fighter/bomber squadrons could handle smaller ships or maybe a single dreadnought if no other ships were involved. I was curious about the size though because in some of your new works where it is in formation with other ships it looks to be about slightly less than half the length of the Assertor class.
Those formation shots probably entail some ships being (much) closer to the ‘camera’ than others, hence the scale confusion without common elements (like, say, bridge towers) to compare.
dang if the rebels (in the animated series) took this ship, they would be set for their fleet, they would be able to sell the ties for parts and have room for their ships. Even keep some of the ties to use against the empire. Awesome job with the ship.
how many thousand
Reminds me of the Relentless class carrier from the IMPS The Relentless fan film series. Yet it looks even bigger!