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Jason Skeans
Jason Skeans
1 year ago

how many point defense cannon are there

Anonymous User
Anonymous User
1 year ago

Could someone like a Grand Admiral commandeer this ship?

PhantomFury
PhantomFury
1 year ago
Reply to  Anonymous User

Possibly? Though this ship is primarily for Sector command so it might find more uses in the hand of High Admirals.

Revan
Revan
1 year ago
Reply to  Anonymous User

Technically a Grand Admiral could commandeer any warship in the Imperial Navy if they so pleased, at least almost any warship with the Executor-class needing to be assigned to the Grand Admiral in the first place like seen with some Grand Admirals in both Legends and Canon. So yeah, they could.

FalconHell
FalconHell
10 months ago
Reply to  Revan

Yeah but since Disney took over star wars, the EU is no longer cannon, right?

Grand Admiral Starman
2 years ago

I absolutely love the design of the Allegiance-class Battlecruiser. I think it could really replace Imperator or Imperial II-class Star Destroyer, of it had a hangar bay. I mean, you have all the space you want to make a big hangar bay. This ship has the size of a secutor-class, so I think it would be easy to ad at least 8 hangar bays. Also, why exactly doesn’t this ship have any?

Anonymous
2 years ago

Because Fractal design it as a pure anti-capital warship so it need to have a huge power generator and very powerful heavy turbolasers at the cost of removing a hanger bays because there won’t be much room to put it, while the Imperator is a multi-role warship and the Secutor is a destroyer-carrier hybrid.

MemeLordStarWars
MemeLordStarWars
10 months ago

Idk but that’s a good point.

John the Gamer
John the Gamer
2 years ago

Could anyone give me some cost related numbers on this ship? Like, how many credits would the empire have to fork over to get one of these babies?

The equivalent of two ISDII’s? Three? I imagine the scaling costs for those main reactors is probably expansional, not linear. And a heavy turbolaser is probably also not cheap.

XK-117
XK-117
2 years ago
Reply to  John the Gamer

Imperial-II class Star Destroyers just under 150,000,000 credits. The Imperial-I class ships cost slightly more, right at the 150,000,000 mark. The Empire eventually fielded more than 25,000 of these and someone in one of the EU comics (I can’t remember who) said that almost half of the Empire’s budget went into paying for the Star Destroyers. But that is just for the ship it self. They’re crewed by nearly 37,000 imperials and they carry, among many other things, 72 TIEs, 30 AT-STs and 20 AT-ATs. Basically, a fully loaded Imperial-class Star Destroyer is not cheap. Cost of capitol ships is part of why the Rebel Alliance relied so heavily on smaller Star Fighters. By comparison, the Acclamator-class assault ships used by the Republic were 29,000,000 a piece but with fewer guns, worse armor, and significantly lower tonnage (they were less than half the length) they would be ruined by an Imperial-class ship. So scaling up from the Imperial-class to the Allegiance class, based on armor, guns, reactors, shielding, et cetera, I’d guess it’s in the 200,000,000 to 250,000,000 range. Being so closely related to the Imperial-II class ships means they’re not likely that much more expensive. They’re up-armored, better shielded, and larger, but they lack ventral hangers and are armed with fewer lasers. They tech is probably similar.

ILove4KArt
ILove4KArt
3 years ago

Where can I see the stats for your ships?

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

So Fractal I notice something inside the Allegiance’s bow: http://fractalsponge.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/asd91.jpg
Above that quad medium turbolaser they seem to be look like 8 missiles launchers but are they?

Xenospartan653
Xenospartan653
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

it does look like it. Probably a pack of PD concussion missiles – they look too small to be antiship.

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

I’m still waiting for an Imperial I (ANH/R1) Star destroyer

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

On the Imperator-Class, there are new sources, most notably SWBF2 Campaign that pinpoint where the Point-Defence TL’s are located. (hint hint)

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
3 years ago
Reply to  Fractalsponge

All this nu-BF2 bullroar just makes me flashback wistfully to the X-Brick original, self-repairing bombers with bottomless payloads & all.

Todd
Todd
3 years ago
Reply to  gorkmalork

Haha, I always figured you had mynocks winging fresh payload modules midfight

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
3 years ago
Reply to  gorkmalork

Cloaked space-parasite supply/repair crews make sense enough for me. Just wish they also ‘serviced’ the fighters & interceptors-those damn snubs & line TIEs went splat if you looked at ’em funny. Film-accurate if you’re not a main character, to be sure…

Jonathan C.
3 years ago

Interesting. I see 3 different types of “ball” mounts here. Large single, triple, and smaller quads. Are the barrels of the triple indicitive of ion cannons I wonder? or maybe all the ball mounts are ion cannons?

If they are not ion cannons, but instead Turbolasers, how do they compare to those triple 175 teraton turrets here and on the Procursator. I always wondered at how the octuple turrets can seem so much smaller but would be implied to output more (like 240-320 teratons each).

Jonathan C.
3 years ago
Reply to  Fractalsponge

Ahh thanks for the clarification, the relative size to the octuple barbettes work out in my mind now.

Grand Admiral Declann
Grand Admiral Declann
3 years ago
Reply to  Fractalsponge

So I was wondering Fractal, would you say the that a 10 Yottawatt estimate would be right for the reactor power output? Just out of curiosity, how much wattage would it take to fire a single bolt from a 175TT HTL?

UnipolarMania
UnipolarMania
3 years ago
Reply to  Fractalsponge

Just want to know if I got the count on these right – that’s 12 175TT HTL quad flank turrets, 2 175TT HTL quad ball turrets, 4 175TT Ion triple ball turrets, and 57 “small” quad turrets that I would assume are TL mounts? I probably missed counting some of them – bad eyes and all.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
3 years ago

I’ll confess to finding this brute’s reactor dome somewhat jarring from a few angles, but the expanded yet streamlined dorsal superstructure & staggered ‘broadside’ turret strips are quite neat. Plus, gotta love those ball turrets. I take it the hangar’s just big enough for a fistful of Lambdas?

Sephiroth0812
Sephiroth0812
3 years ago
Reply to  gorkmalork

Honestly I was just wondering where this baby even has its hangar?

Looks more like it needs a fighter screen provided from elsewhere like i.e. an accompanying Ton-Falk Escort Carrier or a Venator.
Or maybe just give it a few Raider-Corvettes as protection against dedicated bomber squadrons? Normal fighters probably can’t scratch it anyways if it hasn’t already sustained damage from enemy capitals.

PhantomFury
PhantomFury
3 years ago

Always love the Alliegence-class. Something about the fact that it’s so similar to the classic ISD yet has its own role in the battlefield. This affection is hard to describe.

George Apley
George Apley
3 years ago

She’s a beauty! Always loved the Allegiance. Great work as always!

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

So Fractal how would the Allegiance fare against the Compellor?

Xeno
Xeno
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Completely different ships. Allegiance is 2.2 km long, and is a glorified ISD. Compellor is a 4.X km Star Cruiser, probably at least twice as long, and multiple times the mass.

Maybe 2-3 Allegiances could take on a Compellor evenly.

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  Fractalsponge

Ah so 1 Allegiance will get overwhelm by the Compellor’s mass 40 TT HTLs then? Although the Compellor will be quite heavily damaged by the Allegiance’s more powerful HTLs.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Overall this strikes me as one of those ‘close enough for surprise/crew quality/lucky first salvo to decide’ matchups. Don’t suppose Compellor’s small-craft contingent would help much unless (a) they were prepped for heavy strike and (b) decisive damage had already accrued? I do have to roll my eyes at SDN posters figuring a Resurgent’s fighter wings would handily give it the edge on Allegiance, since those nu-trilogy carrier-cruisers seem to be rather more structurally-compromised throughout the bow.

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

Fractal I just notice that some of the quad medium turbolasers in the ship trenchs are on the side instead of upside like on the Dreadnaught frigate which is interesting but I wonder why though like better arcs or something?

Arvenski
Arvenski
3 years ago

It’s great to see this ship getting updates, I’ve always liked it. I hope it can be made canon again.

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

Venator Maybe? or another Clone Wars Era Star Destroyer?
Ever going to make one of those?

Soren
Soren
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

The Victory and the Imperator were present during the clones wars, so technically, he already has.

Sephiroth0812
Sephiroth0812
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

As far as I know Fractal already stated he’ll make the Venator SD eventually and I am certainly looking forward to that one as it is my favorite ship design-wise.

As for Clone Wars-era stuff, the Victory I-class, Imperator/Imperial I-class Star Destroyer and the Legator-Battleship are technically ships originating in the Clone Wars.
Fractal just didn’t present them in Republic colors (and in all honesty Imperial coloration is easier and faster to portray than the more sophisticated red-white stuff of the Republic).