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Gear-2557
Gear-2557
7 months ago

This may be a dumb question but in your opion which has more volume: A Secutor or a Resurgent?

Ajax
Ajax
10 months ago

What are the Hatch looking fixtures on the edges? Looks like there is 4 large hinges with one big hatch on both top and bottom of the hull.

Dan
Dan
1 year ago

This is one of the most beautiful designs in all of the Star Wars universe. I love it! I wish we could see more of it in cannon.

Samuel Ranney
Samuel Ranney
1 year ago

What are the armaments on this ship?

Dan
Dan
1 year ago
Reply to  Samuel Ranney

According to Wookiepedia Legends, 15 heavy Turbolasers, 15 light Turbolasers, 15 heavy and 16 medium Ion cannons, and 12 tractor beam projectors.

TheIcthala
TheIcthala
7 months ago
Reply to  Dan

Judging by the images:
24 quad heavy turbolaser barbettes
6 DBY-827 Dual Heavy Turbolaser Turrets
3 twin heavy ion cannon turrets
6 quad medium turbolaser turrets
Indeterminate number of point defence turrets

Samuel
Samuel
1 year ago

How many fighters do you think this could carry?

Dan
Dan
1 year ago
Reply to  Samuel

According to Wookiepedia, 144 TIE/ln Starfighters

Alice
Alice
1 year ago
Reply to  Dan

That figure is wayyy too low !! I know it’s the “official” stat…..but a ship this size ? Has to be at least 8 to 10 wings…so at least 576 starfighters (models from the TIE Line , I7 Howlrunners, Assault Gunboats, Missile Boats, Skiprays )

Kal Skirata
Kal Skirata
1 year ago
Reply to  Alice

I know, very sad. Fractal originally intended the Secutor to have 8-10 wings when he designed it, but when it became legends, people started messing with the numbers and now its official complement is 2 wings.

Bob
Bob
8 months ago
Reply to  Dan

Wookieepedia does not define parameters set by the ships designer (Fractal), based on a role playing game tinkered with for game playability outside of the mathematics involved in figuring out the internal volume of the ship. The actual number is 7-10 wings, as designed, Wookieepedia editors be damned.

CFletch
CFletch
2 years ago

Are there any rough power generation estimates given for this design? I’d love to see how it stacks up against other designs on that count. I find the power generation Fractal gives for these ships to be one of the most interesting aspects of his design process.

LazerZ
LazerZ
2 years ago

You know, given the description of the command ship Maelstrom from the old Living Force campaign, I wonder if the Maelstrom-class could have the same hull type as the Secutor-class. Their “official” stats seem to put them in the same weight class as well, as unreliable as rpg stats are. The Maelstrom is described as “winged,” however. Not that this would be the first time that different versions of the same hull Type would either have or lack wings.

Fleet Admiral SMG3
3 years ago

So fractal, I noticed that the front of the ship has a structure similar to the Venator one in the middle, just before the command bridge and the turbolasers. Is it, like the Venator, a door where there are hangar bays?

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

So Fractal I found this edited Secutor which have it’s bridge tower move to the back from the middle and I think it was interesting to see it like that what do you think?

Grand+Admiral+517
Grand+Admiral+517
3 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

I honestly prefere this one over the canon design for some reason

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

you should next create the imperial raider-class corvette or the galactic alliance’s pellaeon-class star destroyer (from legends(which is my cannon)

Anonymous
Anonymous
3 years ago

OK so I look at the hangers and I think the Secutor’s standard fighter complement is likely 10 fighter wings (= 1, 2/3 groups = 60 squadrons = 180 flights = 720 fighters) since Fractal said it was 8+ wings.

PhantomFury
PhantomFury
4 years ago

The massive hangar spaces are awesome! Although the Empire always had warships over starfighters mentality, I can see this dropping of hyperspace and spew out its TIEs to overwhelm practically anything.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
3 years ago
Reply to  PhantomFury

Interesting blunted-arrowhead hull plan, mid-ship relocation of the Venator’s command tower(s), aft comm(?) station & forward-arc spinal battery strip. Looks like a nice speedy mid/late-Clone Wars design & just the sort of thing you’d want for a Procursator/Victory squadron’s small-craft needs. Come to think of it, a couple of those Marvel Comics TaggeCo cruisers might also serve as a decent visual complement.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
3 years ago
Reply to  gorkmalork

Whoops, unintentional comment-reply. Agreed on the big hangars, though.

Chris Bradshaw
Chris Bradshaw
3 years ago
Reply to  gorkmalork

If I was going to call out any Fractal design for not having enough power generation for its stated design goals and features, the Secutor might be a good candidate. The hull shape can’t be able to fit a reactor any larger than an ISD’s reactor and possibly not even that size. Despite that, the Secutor is significantly better armed than an ISD, has a larger engine bank to push it around at high speed, and a vast surface area to keep shielded.

Perhaps the Secutor is only really capable of using its stated weapons fit while fighting virtually unshielded/at very low acceleration, but it seems like a lack of capability that a sane naval procurement strategy should reject on the drawing board.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
3 years ago
Reply to  Chris Bradshaw

Very fair points re: Secutor trading shields/firepower/general endurance for speed & small-craft carriage. Dunno how much of a problem this proved against most (much) spindlier CIS capitals, but I’d certainly attach these things to sector groups with either a decent-size wolfpack or several no-shit cruisers. Fun to visualize an isolated Secutor-v-Home One-tier Mon Cal scrap, though.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
3 years ago
Reply to  Chris Bradshaw

Sounds about right. I get the impression Secutor could handle itself against most CIS ships short of a combat-modded Lucrehulk, and even there it might have enough of a footwork edge & fighter-number parity to carry the day. Can’t say I’d envy the swamping most Mon Cals’ fighter contingents would be in for either.

Steve Bannon
Steve Bannon
3 years ago
Reply to  gorkmalork

Fighter parity with a Lucrehulk is pretty dubious. There’s a 1500 Vulture number from the ICS which should be more than enough to swamp a Secutor, even with the upper end estimate of 10 wings.

That 1500 Vulture figure is from a Phantom Menace era conversion serving primarily as an assault transport, with most of its cargo volume used for massive landing craft, tens of thousands of tanks/troop transports, and the better part of half a million battle droids.

A late Clone-Wars CIS Lucrehulk used as a pure dedicated carrier could probably deploy close to 100,000 light fighters, although its ability to effectively control and coordinate such a swarm in the face of jamming is questionable.

Maphisto86
Maphisto86
4 years ago

I am glad this design was re-introduced into canon. A lovely flying delta.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  Maphisto86

Wrong the class name is canon not the design, Although I wish it was.

Maphisto86
Maphisto86
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Oh boo anon! You are actually right. Still, when I was reading the book ‘Tarkin’ where it was mentioned, I imagined the Conquest as looking like Ansel’s design. It is implied unless a new design is introduced for the class. Agreed with Sephiroth0812 that Ansel should be hired to make the “canon” Victory and Secutor classes his designs.

Sephiroth0812
Sephiroth0812
4 years ago
Reply to  Maphisto86

I dunno, to me the Secutor always looked like a giant flying moth, lol.

As for the new Disney canon, just like the Anon said, the Secutor is canon as a class just like the Victory-class SD, but both of their canon design, armaments and complements have not been elaborated upon as of now which is likely because they only appeared so far in the novel “Tarkin”.

No other work has yet taken up the Secutor or the Victory so while they exist in the new canon, they are not really used yet.

A part of me wishes that if they do decide to do more with the Secutor and the Victory in the new canon they’ll hire Fractal to make their canon designs.

Admiral Drakkmar
Admiral Drakkmar
4 years ago

Does anyone have a link to the Saxton ship classification system. I am curious to see how it differs from the Anaxes War College system. I have not been able to find any information on it.

Yonka
Yonka
4 years ago

Dr. Saxton’s technical commentaries are on theforce.net, see below.

http://www.theforce.net/swtc/index.html

Admiral Drakkmar
Admiral Drakkmar
4 years ago
Reply to  Yonka

Thank you for the link. Lots of good information.

Yonka
Yonka
4 years ago

Happy to help. I find his technical writing really interesting too.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
4 years ago

So far as I can tell, Saxton’s classifications roughly parallel mid-20th century naval scaling norms: patrol boat/gunship<corvette<frigate<destroyer<cruiser<battlecruiser<battleship/dreadnought. The Anaxes system's major differences from this involve 'cruisers' being generalized as smaller than 'star destroyers', with battlecruisers & then dreadnoughts forming the next two tiers.

Admiral Drakkmar
Admiral Drakkmar
4 years ago
Reply to  gorkmalork

Thanks for the info. Does Dr. Saxton give size ranges for each category? Such as, where the Anaxes system states that Star Desroyers range in size from 1000 to 2000 meters.

Steve Bannon
Steve Bannon
4 years ago

Length isn’t exactly the best way to measure warships, especially when their proportions range from the saber-esque Vengeance to something like a Lucrehulk or torpedo sphere. When it comes to standard KDY wedges, length is a useful approximation for volume, but the key statistic to measure is power generation above all else.

gejemica
gejemica
4 years ago

Also, even with length being used for Star Destroyers, it’s misleading. A Procursator is 75% the length of an Imperial class but that translates to actually being less than half the size.