14 Nov 2019 Interdictor Star Destroyer (Dominator) Redux WIP#2 by Fractalsponge | posted in: Capital ship, Galactic Empire, Star Wars, WIP | 29
Amazing work as always, yet the Turbolaser placement puzzles me, having a Octuple Barbette mostly obscured by the massive Generators seems counter intuitive to me, I think the good people at Kuat would be sensible enough to move the Main Battery either further up in the Superstructure, or forward on the bow of the ship to allow the Ship a greater field of fire to it’s front in line with the wedge shape.
The elevated structure beneath the bridge would present an ideal gun platform for a handfull of Turbolasers and offer them an all-around field of fire, with a slight slope forwards even more so, as it would allow for full frontal firepower the Kuat Designs are famous for.
just my two cents, keep up the good job, love all your work.
Yeah, the batteries’ placement is rather odd, then again there aren’t many good places to put them. They should have mounted more guns atop the upper superstrucutre which is much taller than that seen on other Star Destroyers to allow the batteries to fire overtop the gravity well projectors. Also, the Interdictor is never without a support fleet, and the ship has a few heavy and light guns facing the sides and rear of the ship to help protect it from flanking attacks by fighters / corvettes with enough frontal firepower to still be a good supplement against other enemy ships.
I’m assuming that – like the Immobilizer – this thing would have its performance degraded by the use of its gravity well projectors, as they’re much more powerful (and thus draw more power).
A version I’ve considered in the past is something in the Procursator size range, but fitted with Immobilizer-size gravity well projectors. My take is that such a ship would be able to provide equivalent interdiction support, but would have a much higher power budget, and would thus be able to stay mobile with the main body of the taskforce, as well as having enough firepower to better act in its own defense.
My thinking is the point of it is to both increase performance and at least partially beat the power draw issue. I have no idea how grav well projectors scale (my guess is it’s not volume), but reactors scale by volume and it’s a much bigger jump in hull and reactor volume from Immobilizer to this than bulb radius. There’s also room for capacitor/small reactor space under bulb now compared to the Immobilizer, so each projector pair might have their own power systems integrated. Coupled with cutting more firepower from an ISD than reactor volume, and this platform might be able to turn on its projectors much faster and still function as a warship while they are on.
With all this talk; Im now curious to see under one of these domes…
While generally form should follow function, in this case the form is already established (seemingly perfect half-spheres). Any internal design should explain the reason for that. All the infernal mechanisms that come to my mind would however fit much better into a full sphere – but I’m curious if people can find explanations for the pair of half-spheres as well.
Maybe instead of a full sphere, it’s a centrally located generator with dorsal and ventral dome-type emitter arrays. Other, larger ships (like the Eclipse) don’t have visible full spheres, either, so who is to say that they aren’t just emitter arrays mounted over the actual generators?
I don’t know – just doesn’t seem to work for me.
Are the emitters emitting radially from the center of the spheres? If not, then why the spherical form? If yes, then they can’t aim 90 deg sideways, because the hull is in the way. Or they are emitting through the hull (no problem with that), but then why not make the top and bottom half-spheres into one single sphere – they almost but not quite form a full sphere already – making them one sphere would make life much easier for picturing the interior of the projectors.
I don’t assume the domes are the emitter elements. I always thought that they were like radome covers for the mechanism underneath, and that was the thing that did the grav well generation. That thing might even be mechanically trained.
A single continuous sphere surface might have the single projector within mounted like a gyroscope within a hole in the main hull, while the bigger ships have the hemisphere covering a projector turret or something mounted on the hull surface. They all “shoot” through the hull and the radome-cover, but a Dominator has 8 larger projectors vs an Immobilizer’s 4 smaller ones.
Couldn’t help myself and do some modelling. This is what came out of my mind (still a work in progress): https://countvertex.tumblr.com/
Massive energy input onto some exotic material to produce a particle beam that is basically non-interacting with most things. Feel free to enter any physics mumbo-jumbo here to explain the generation of a gravity well at some distance from the ship… particle decay, gravitons, …
I like the idea of particle colliders in the shape of large rings in the spheres as well. After all, that’s where you get exotic particles, right?
I’m not following, when I look at the images of the ships the Immobilizer and Dominator have the same number of bulges – 4 ventral half spheres, 4 dorsal half spheres. Both in new and old canon.
There were two very early drawings from a sourcebook and a comic showing an interdictor with only 4, but the standard image of the Immobilizer has the same number as a Dominator.
I guess I’m confused, what are you referring to here?
The Dominator is on a 1600m hull. The Immobilizer is on a 600m hull. Their projectors are fundamentally different in scale. I’m positing that the Immobilizer has 4 systems, and they span the very thin hull to be covered on either end by a dome cover. The Dominator is big enough that there might be 8 systems, one on each side, each individually bigger than the single hull-spanning system on an Immobilizer.
Gotcha. In one of our previous discussions on interdictors, you mentioned that an Immobilizer would be unable to project gravity wells large enough to interdict one of the major hyperspace lanes. My thinking was the Dominator was your answer to that, by making an Immobilizer writ large, with the Gravity Well Projectors scaled to the largest possible size that could be fitted on an ISD frame, with the result of far larger and “deeper” gravity wells, but at a similar cost in performance.
I still don’t think a single ship ought to be able to shut down a major lane. Maybe, if there tech scaled that far, a dreadnought scaled projector would be more convincing for be for that kind of impact.
And now you have us envisioning a gateway battle station built around a 6 km diameter gravity well projector used to defend the main entrances into the core.
Well, maybe a distributed network of thousands of smaller projector stations is probably a better idea.
Be cool to see a torpedo sphere converted into a sort of gravity well sphere; with either having 1 massive or multiple Dominator sized gravity wells & projectors inside of it.
Not a hard conversion to do, either, considering a lot of the Sphere’s interior is just magazines for the torpedo launchers.
On a different site, I postulated something like this as the space-going equivalent of an interstate highway truck scale, just setting up shop at random points, scanning any ships that they force out of hyperspace, putting some through more rigorous on board inspections.
I love the addition of the triple MTLs on this! Though I do see the PD placements and that quad mount tucked in near the back but with the cut out of the super structure the way it is; how much more susceptible is the Interdictor to trench run disease? If I were a terrorist pilot… I mean rebel pilot, I’d just fly in the blind spots caused by the grav well projectors, cut in-between them, get behind the PD guns then fire off some proton torpedoes or concussion missiles once i’m in that cut out space of the super structure
If you get that close then you deserve a shot at the crevice. Shields are still a thing though.
Not MTL – same guns as ISDII main gun.
I always thought the interdictor was smaller than a standard ISD, but the eye test here (based on the octuple barbette) would seem to indicate they share a basic hull construction, minus the superstructure of course. How do they measure up to each other size wise?
Precisely the same.
The 418 one is 600m though
they’re two interdictor models, a smaller one and a ISD sized type in Legends.
The ISD type is actually back in cannon as well. There is one in Vader Immortal episode 1.
If anything, I think it could be argued that dimension-wise, the Interdictor is larger in terms of dimensions than the standard ISD, the gravity well generators on the ventral side increase the overall height of the ship and from the looks of it, the bridge tower is a bit more elevated than on the ISD, this last part however could just be an optical illusion..
The extra height was something I was under the impression of as well–both from images and source material–but Fractalsponge confirmed the size is the same in the WIP #1…
Now the question is, do gravity well generators have any impact on mass/tonnage??!?
Looking good so far!