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Jdpeterson34
Jdpeterson34
1 month ago

I love how in the EU, these things were refit as the “Enforcer”-class as an awesome solution to the Pentastar Alignment’s lack of shipyards and cash. They couldn’t afford to pump out ISDs, nor did they have the manpower and shipyards to do so, so instead they pumped modified versions of these out. I love how practical they are, especially compared to an ISD.

Ioan
2 years ago

How many starfighters and ground vehicles can fit in the frigate?

Almas
2 years ago
Reply to  Ioan

It all depends on the modification and place of service. There were frigates converted for mobile prisons (for over 4000 prisoners), escort craft carriers (with 48 fighters and bombers) and command ships (even in squadron with star destroyers). And of course well know Immobilizer 418 (Interdictor) is a subclass of that ship.
According to EU materials: up to 36 star fighters (often 24 TIE/ln), plus 2-4 shuttles and 1-2 assault crafts.
Enough firepower to patrol the star systems and escort convoys.
Cool right?

James
James
2 years ago
Reply to  Ioan

However many the director decides.

Road Warrior
Road Warrior
2 years ago

Nice materials and lighting update.

Spookas
Spookas
2 years ago

Really impressive work, Fractal! I know I’m not the only one that wouldn’t mind this refresh spreading to your other artwork : )

JAMESMCGR
JAMESMCGR
2 years ago

Very nice. I wonder how many it would take to fight a ISD?

StoneHENK
StoneHENK
2 years ago
Reply to  JAMESMCGR

The ISD2 had 91 of these 40 teraton heavy turbolasers. You need at least 23 of these Vindicators to match that. Off course you need to take the size difference, shield strength, armor and starfighter complement into consideration. A fleet of Vindicators can shoot from all directions on a ISD, but the ISD has most of its cannons on the upside. The ISD is also much thicker with much thicker hull armor so more shots are needed to have critical damage (like a damaged reactor) while the ISDs turbolasers with the same power need less hits to damage the reactor critical.

Statius
Statius
2 years ago
Reply to  StoneHENK

Are the HTLs on the Vindicator the equivalent of a single barrel of the octuple battery, or equal to one battery?

Sorican
Sorican
2 years ago
Reply to  StoneHENK

5-6 Ywings in Rogue one took an ISD out of the fight above Scarrif with a volley of ion torps.
arguing that any one ship can or cannot, or how many numbers of what ships equal another larger ship is pretty difficult.

gotta love plot-tech, huh?

CRMcNeill
CRMcNeill
2 years ago
Reply to  Sorican

They did not take it out, they _disabled_ it with ion torpedoes. The EU has been hugely contradictory, practically from the outset, as to the interaction between shields, ion weaponry, torpedoes, etc, stating at various turns that torpedoes ignored shields, that ion weaponry ignored shields, that ion weaponry brought shields down before disabling ships, and so on and so forth. We have no information as to how much energy ion torpedoes deliver, not how well shielded the ISD’s systems were against ion attacks, nor whether one or more of the torpedoes just happened to hit something critical that shorted the entire ship out. And there’s a big difference between shorting out the electrical systems and pumping enough destructive energy into a ship to destroy it.

Chris Bradshaw
Chris Bradshaw
2 years ago
Reply to  CRMcNeill

Plus, the ships at Scarif were essentially moored and at low alert. There’s a good chance they weren’t even operating at full reactor output or fully manned, as they were only firing very sporadically and not maneuvering at all. An Imperator at general quarters is a much more dangerous foe, as we saw with Vader’s Devastator.

Valoren
Valoren
2 years ago
Reply to  Chris Bradshaw

Disabled to the point of the thrusters shutting down, as well as every significant defenses and probably communications, considering how the whole hammerhead maneuver panned out and how long it took. 5 Y-wing to achieve that is still an extremely small requirement For a ship 5 time the tonnage of a Venator, whether it was running low or not. Add to that that both canon and legend are insistent on the idea that ISDs AA defenses are pathetically ineffective…

Kenneth Ferland
Kenneth Ferland
1 year ago
Reply to  Valoren

I agree it seemed disproportionally effective. What I would have preferred was for the 2 ambushed ships to have been Victory type StarDestroyers, as these are notably less capable then a full ISD, it would have been a lot more believable for a corvette to push them, and it would have been their first on screen appearance after decades of existing only in the EU in which they are by far one of the best known ships.

SP-475
SP-475
2 years ago
Reply to  StoneHENK

23+ if you count the weapon emplacements. But I think that the overall power output is like 10-12 to be a threat to an ISD. It was stated that 6-10 Dreadnaught-class ships are a match for one ISD. The Vindicator is only a lil bit weaker to a Dreadnaught, due to better armor and missile launchers. But I’m a noob in this regard, so not sure.

Jdpeterson34
Jdpeterson34
1 month ago
Reply to  JAMESMCGR

It really comes down to the Vindicator-class’ reactor output. An ISD may have 23x as many HTLs than a Vindicator, but if 10 Vindicators have the same reactor output as an ISD, the picture changes. It’s not just about how many barrels you have, but how much energy can come out of those barrels at once. It also depends on how much of the Vindicator’s reactor can be dedicated to its weapons. In a description of the Venator, a book said it’s a “true battleship” because it can devote 100% of its reactor output to its weapons. Seeing as how a Vindicator would never be considered a “battleship,” I doubt it can devote 100% of its reactor output to its weapons. Basically, there’s no hard answers. Just using the good ol’ fashioned eyeball test, I’d guess it would take 10-15 Vindicators to take down an ISD. This fits with the price comparison, since an ISD costs 150 million credits, while a Vindicator costs 10.4 million credits in the EU. 150 million / 10.4 million = ~14.

Last edited 1 month ago by Jdpeterson34