Those are a dual turbolaser and an ion cannon, respectively; this walker can fit any of the turret mounts from the HAVr-A10 Scythe. Additional turret types were discussed on the Discord, but ultimately ran into the “you could, but why would you” problem.
Sidious
1 year ago
The largest gun attachment looks like it could rip apart a capital ship.
Hey Fractal, I have a question for you. How does this walker compare to the SPHA platform in terms of role? Does it replace the SPHA in your previous order of battle, or would it be used to supplement it, say with the SPHA still performing in the anti-capital ship role, with the AT-HA serving as a conventional heavy artillery walker for mechanized formations?
Sett
1 year ago
Small question, how is the designation to differentiate between the different types of walkers based on the same chassis?
AtomicHobo
1 year ago
I love it! Call it the Self-Propelled Heavy Artillery (SPHA) and it could be the big brother of the SPMA-T
SPHA-T: Self Propelled Heavy Artillery – Turbolaser
In Legends there were other models of SPHA which we never got to see on screen, but they were all based on the SPHA chassis.
MrMills
1 year ago
Is this based off the SPMA-T from Empire At War?
John Smith
1 year ago
What are its stats??
Kuato
1 year ago
I like all of those except for the mass driver. Put a single gun on a walker. Or put an entire battery. But a single gun mount and a dual gun mount? What’s the point?
The center mount is more robust and can accommodate larger turret options, as demonstrated by the beam cannon and the theatre shield generator. Adding a third barrel results in a 50% increase in volume of fire without adding more vehicles, which is advantageous in a variety of ways.
Hmmm. I will accept this. But after some thought, I would prefer artillery on the rear mount and then some kind of self-defense weaponry on the foward mount. Fractal’s AAA dual gun mount would be ideal, IMO. AAA is brutal against soft targets and some protection against counter-battery fire would be nice, especially for a slow-going walker.
That’s an option if the walker is operating on its own, but when it’s part of a formation, AAA would be handled by dedicated vehicles like the AT-AA or something.
It’s more firepower, sure. But you can get the same job done with dispersed firepower, to say nothing of the advanced ammo those guns are sending downrange.
Speaking of dispersed firepower, the Broadsword SPA fills this role already, no?
If there is a bigger platform available, a slow-going walker in this case, I would prefer it being a siege platform with a huge gun or mortar mounted in that rear turret and then AAA up front to deal with incoming or anything on the ground up to the horizon.
Dispersed firepower will be even heavier if each individual unit is firing with three barrels instead of two, and if you have multiple types of walkers available, it’s better that they be focused on their specific mission. And putting the AAA on a separate platform allows it to engage attacking aircraft sooner / at greater distance from the artillery walker.
As envisioned, Walkers are designed for assaults through theatre shields. Ground contact allows them to pass through the shield (see the Battle of Naboo) where repulsorlifts like the Broadsword can’t.
There was discussion of a VLS missile pod in the rear turret, but it wasn’t modeled. Considering that counter-artillery fire exists to shoot down ballistic shells, one massive shell fired by a siege mortar is much less likely to survive until impact, whereas multiple smaller ones have a better chance of over-saturating the target’s defenses.
I mean, if you only have one AT-HA, and no dedicated AA walkers like the AT-AA are available, then sure, having an AA cannon in one socket makes sense, but those instances will be vanishingly rare if they happen at all. A walker like this is supposed to be deployed as part of a formation of dozens or hundreds of walkers, of multiple different designs as befits their specific mission. Putting dedicated AA on smaller, faster platforms like the AT-AA allows for better coverage of the entire formation, and actually provides superior coverage (due to longer engagement window) than would mashing up howitzers and AA on the same platform.
Last edited 1 year ago by CRMcNeill
Nick
1 year ago
This is amazing. He keeps knocking these imperial walker designs out of the metaphorical ballpark. Each of these is stunning. I love it that Fractal included variations in this design.
well done! Now all we need is some other visual good artist on the net somewhere to give the weird ships like the Vong and the Ssi-Ruuk a proper and official gallery of ships and ground vehicles. Fractal from what I see likes to keep to mechanical designs which are masterfully rendered.
nick
1 year ago
really cool and impressive. if i had one criticism. it would be that the base of the large cannon looks too big and wide. like in some of the shots that show it turned. you can see under it. it makes the cannon look tacked on. is there a way to shrink its size slightly to fit onto the top surface with no bleed over the edge? also. the parts at the base that attach to the hydrolics at the bootm of the front of the cannon could probably use more detail. maybe a big hinge joint? would make it look more sturdy. but this this looks amazing.
svobomil
1 year ago
I dub thee Apocalypse walker
TheIcthala
1 year ago
Excellent design.
Am I right in thinking that the version with all the dishes is a mobile command post?
Not at all. The one with all the dishes is a shield generator, for projecting a theater bubble shield over the army, like the Gungans did in The Phantom Menace.
For command posts, these walkers are so big that every variant can serve as a quite adequate command post.
Could you do the AT-HA compared to a juggernaut?
Just thought about what might have happened if the Empire had brought one of these with them to Hoth. 🤔
It would’ve Ka Blammed Echo Base. No more Princess Leia, no more Han Solo
would it be possible for an Zeta-class Tactical Carryall to carry an AT-HA?
No
It could, its only very sightly thicker then a AT-AT so it would fit
The AT-HA is more than 2x the width of the AT-AT
Would any of these modules be used in an indirect fire role?
The cannon in images 6-9 are ballistic artillery cannon.
What is the purpose of the armaments in the 10th picture, and also are there any other options you haven’t go round to designing?
Those are a dual turbolaser and an ion cannon, respectively; this walker can fit any of the turret mounts from the HAVr-A10 Scythe. Additional turret types were discussed on the Discord, but ultimately ran into the “you could, but why would you” problem.
The largest gun attachment looks like it could rip apart a capital ship.
Would one of these fit in a chi-class dropship?
Yes. It’s roughly the same footprint as a HAVw-A6.
Thanks
Hey Fractal, I have a question for you. How does this walker compare to the SPHA platform in terms of role? Does it replace the SPHA in your previous order of battle, or would it be used to supplement it, say with the SPHA still performing in the anti-capital ship role, with the AT-HA serving as a conventional heavy artillery walker for mechanized formations?
Small question, how is the designation to differentiate between the different types of walkers based on the same chassis?
I love it! Call it the Self-Propelled Heavy Artillery (SPHA) and it could be the big brother of the SPMA-T
The SPHA already exists; it’s the turbolaser walker from Attack of the Clones.
thats the S-PHAT
SPHA-T: Self Propelled Heavy Artillery – Turbolaser
In Legends there were other models of SPHA which we never got to see on screen, but they were all based on the SPHA chassis.
Is this based off the SPMA-T from Empire At War?
What are its stats??
I like all of those except for the mass driver. Put a single gun on a walker. Or put an entire battery. But a single gun mount and a dual gun mount? What’s the point?
The center mount is more robust and can accommodate larger turret options, as demonstrated by the beam cannon and the theatre shield generator. Adding a third barrel results in a 50% increase in volume of fire without adding more vehicles, which is advantageous in a variety of ways.
Hmmm. I will accept this. But after some thought, I would prefer artillery on the rear mount and then some kind of self-defense weaponry on the foward mount. Fractal’s AAA dual gun mount would be ideal, IMO. AAA is brutal against soft targets and some protection against counter-battery fire would be nice, especially for a slow-going walker.
That’s an option if the walker is operating on its own, but when it’s part of a formation, AAA would be handled by dedicated vehicles like the AT-AA or something.
I mean, if you only have one AT-HA, and no dedicated AA walkers like the AT-AA are available, then sure, having an AA cannon in one socket makes sense, but those instances will be vanishingly rare if they happen at all. A walker like this is supposed to be deployed as part of a formation of dozens or hundreds of walkers, of multiple different designs as befits their specific mission. Putting dedicated AA on smaller, faster platforms like the AT-AA allows for better coverage of the entire formation, and actually provides superior coverage (due to longer engagement window) than would mashing up howitzers and AA on the same platform.
This is amazing. He keeps knocking these imperial walker designs out of the metaphorical ballpark. Each of these is stunning. I love it that Fractal included variations in this design.
well done! Now all we need is some other visual good artist on the net somewhere to give the weird ships like the Vong and the Ssi-Ruuk a proper and official gallery of ships and ground vehicles. Fractal from what I see likes to keep to mechanical designs which are masterfully rendered.
really cool and impressive. if i had one criticism. it would be that the base of the large cannon looks too big and wide. like in some of the shots that show it turned. you can see under it. it makes the cannon look tacked on. is there a way to shrink its size slightly to fit onto the top surface with no bleed over the edge? also. the parts at the base that attach to the hydrolics at the bootm of the front of the cannon could probably use more detail. maybe a big hinge joint? would make it look more sturdy. but this this looks amazing.
I dub thee Apocalypse walker
Excellent design.
Am I right in thinking that the version with all the dishes is a mobile command post?
Not at all. The one with all the dishes is a shield generator, for projecting a theater bubble shield over the army, like the Gungans did in The Phantom Menace.
For command posts, these walkers are so big that every variant can serve as a quite adequate command post.
finally i was hoping for something like this for a long time. At least since APM.
Mobile theatre shield. Excellent.
Wonderful design I really like it.