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Steve

What’s the armament and fighter capacity of the Bellator class?

Noah
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Noah

How fast is this thing?

Ryadra777
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A day late but this Bellator model is now a decade old! (Finish at 2008-09-15)
Here the link to it for proof: http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?p=2890491#p2890491

PhoenixKnight
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PhoenixKnight

it is still holds up

Zeitos
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Zeitos

Wonder if Fractal will do a Mandator 3 at any point

Grand Admiral Declann
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Grand Admiral Declann

I love your work Fractal! The models are of the highest quality that I have seen. Combining my three favorite things: an extreme eye for detail, Star Wars, and Capital Ships.

TacticalApproach
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TacticalApproach

The definition of the Tarkin Doctrine

Grand Admiral Declann
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Grand Admiral Declann

Nah, the Assertor Star Dreadnaught, or the Eclipse Star Dreadnaught. Those 2 Star Dreadnaughts have a Superlaser in their prows. Both can split a small moon or destroy a continent. But the Assertor can also destroy a planets ecosystem by itself with its Turbolaser Batteries as well, because the Assertor does not just have a Superlaser, but hundreds of Turbolaser turrets. In fact, I even think that an Assertor could take on an Executor and win. Especially if the Assertor uses its Superlaser.

Noah
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Noah

The Bellator is really something between the Tarkin Doctrine and Thrawn’s Rule. Thrawn’s Rule says that it’s better to have a fleet of starfighter carriers and small, fast, and agile ships rather than a fleet made up of massive dreadnoughts used to terrify insurgents into submission, and it’s better to win with superior strategy than superior numbers and/or firepower. This is in direct contrast with the Tarkin Doctrine, which states that it is better to win through sheer power, and the best way to rule is through fear. The Bellator slots between both rules in that it is a massive,… Read more »

Grand Admiral Declann
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Grand Admiral Declann

I love this ship! I wonder when it will be made into Cannon, because if it AND the Assertor don’t make it, I will not be happy. I LOVE the engine shots! Does the Bellator have any emergency thrusters like the Imperator/ Imperial class?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

So Fractal are you doing some other work or something right now?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

So Fractal I bet you think the Resurgent class battlecruiser having over 1,500 turbolasers and ion cannons is also fanfic bullshit like the kyber crystals powering the turbolasers right?

Darth Ashes
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Darth Ashes

Hi Fractal. Fantastic! 🙂 Still my favourite Imperial ship ever! Though those new designs are looking kind of sexy too. Any chance of doing maybe an ‘upgraded’ Bellator II-Class? Sorry I haven’t been able to email you yet, will try to soon.

Xeno
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Xeno

A wonderful late birthday present

Looks superb

Road Warrior
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Road Warrior

I always assumed since Executor was the flagship of Death Squadron and Darth Vader’s personal command ship; she was outfitted with psychological warfare in mind. Painting the hull in a much darker tone than per standard for the navy and giving her a menacing (and unique for her size) engine glow would do the trick. Growing up I imagined some fuel additive at play. Perhaps some sort of spin-cooled argon gas…. Executor was used as a symbol as much as anything else.. Perhaps the practice was standardized for its class.(old EU art does show other command ships such as Terror… Read more »

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gorkmalork

I really dunno about Iconic Terrifying Mass/Shape/Coloration(R) being the primary in-universe (as opposed to ILM creative team meta) factor in Executor’s design (Vengeance/Eclipse/Sovereign, on the other hand…). Similar ‘spook the enemy’ fluff text gets applied to the AT-AT, and those beasties seemed functional/durable enough at Hoth (though I’d still want something closer to a traditional tank). Suppose it depends on how much time you figure the Imperial fleet’s heavier elements just spent cruising around spooking Core worlds & monitoring crucial supply chains between the odd Rebel encounter worth their use. Seems likely the EU artwork was just following film precedent,… Read more »

spikedpsycho
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spikedpsycho

In it’s comic introduction Dark Empire, the ships were never named, wikia sites simply named it Humpback star battlecruiser.
But the artwork made it look more Mon Calamari design especially it’s organic back side.
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gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

Eh, Mon Cals never seem to work with pointy edges if they can help it-even with the partial thruster shroud that DE ship’s plainly a KDY (or at least KDY-derived) design. Fractal really filled the bow & keel out when deriving the Bellator in turn from that thing-dunno whether that makes the comic original an earlier mark or separate ship class.

J.J.
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J.J.

My understanding is that a red engine might be less efficient than a blue engine, since if I assume it is giving off black body radiation, then the blue color would mean the engine is hotter than a red engine. The hotter the engine the greater the thrust.

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

Agreed on Roy G. Biv if we were discussing engines operating entirely under current knowledge of physics. As-is in SW, we have alphabet-fighters with sundry shades of pink & orange nozzle-glow seemingly regardless of spaceframe shape or role, TIEs with no visible exhaust to speak of(?), and most bigger ships seem to go blue. I suppose a case could be made for Death Squadron’s sublight speed being dictated by Executor’s lack thereof, but then we have the Falcon struggling to outrun said flagship at the end of ESB.

Noah
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Noah

Starfighters are much, much smaller than capital ships, so it seems logical for a starfighter’s engines to be less powerful than the engines on a capital ship. And by the way, you can see the exhaust on a TIE fighter: it’s the two little red dots on the fighter’s rear that look like taillights (and that’s what I thought they were when I first saw a TIE fighter). We do see a lot of capital ships with blue engine exhaust, including Mon Cal ships and Imperial Star Destroyers, and there are very few non-capital ships that have blue exhaust; the… Read more »

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

Whoahoho, shading & engine flare for what remains my favorite EU-extrapolated capital craft. Shots 1 & 4 in particular are all the early birthday gift I needed this year.

RedBird
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RedBird

That looks awesome…

Ragnrok
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Ragnrok

Wow! those shots look amazing!

Anonymous
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Anonymous

So Fractal I might have encounter the most weirdest star ship ever:comment image/revision/latest?cb=20060318184652

Anonymous
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Anonymous

But the weirdest part of it is that it piloted by alien dinosaurs the Ssiruu and the Pweck I’am not kidding with you.
Here what they look like
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Anonymous
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Anonymous

So what do you think of it?

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

Eh, I’ve seen weirder from Legends’ 90s heyday. Ssi-ruuk capitals seem to have a Mon Cal-esque proclivity for hull blisters, and the curvy brim trenches seem a little art-deco, but Nebulons and ‘Assault Frigates’ have ’em beat to stardust for sheer abstract oddity. Plus, I have to give the one-book-antagonist dinos props for naval designs with *visible guns*.

Grand Admiral Declann
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gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

Just pointing out one structural feature in common; otherwise they’re quite distinguishable (though Ssi-ruuvi blister layouts are a lot more sparse & symmetrical). And…Sithspit, is that an age-of-sail vessel composed of floppy disks?

Chris Bradshaw
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Chris Bradshaw

Everyone’s favorite Dark Empire refugee has finally figured out how to turn on its engines.
The Cherenkov radiation style glow works well with Star Wars, but given how the Bellator is much closer in scale to the Executors than destroyers, wouldn’t it make sense to use a red engine glow?

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

I get the distinct impression Executor’s shade of thruster-backlight stems from the same arbitrary aesthetics logic applied to Imperial/Republic/Alliance laser-tracer differences: ‘cuz it looks cool. Dunno whether there’s any appreciable Roy G. Biv output-for-thrust implication difference to parse out between Ex & Bellators either, since the former never seemed to have much trouble chasing the Falcon or keeping pace with a destroyer screen at sublight.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Ah so doing lighting updates then so I bet you either update the Allegiance or more Assertor since there only one picture of it for testing.