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Cydonian Mystery
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I was wondering about how powerful the Gladiator is compared to the Vindicator. Most stats I’ve seen like to portray the Vindicator as better armed, but that never made much sense to me, especially with these comparison shots. The Gladiator simply has more volume, more weapons, and a bigger reactor here.

Jean-Luc Martel
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Jean-Luc Martel

loving the huge doors on the front hangar! makes perfect sense not to leave that huge opening unprotected.

Chujoy
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Chujoy

I don’t know why, but when I saw this gladiator, I thought “Fat boye”.

Ryan
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Ryan

Very cool render, I’ve always had a bit of a soft-spot for the Gladiator. Just to clarify, I spotted two sets of bridge windows; I’m assuming one is the flight-control center for the embarked squadrons? Also, as an aside, I was wondering if you had any plans to do more KotOR-era ships like the Hammerhead, Centurion, or Interdictor-classes? I really liked the Inexpugnable and the Kandosii models you made (your Kandosii in particular is a favorite of mine), and there seems to be a very distinct lack of quality renders out there for other Old Republic era ships. If anyone… Read more »

Mario
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Mario

I love your Gladiator, do you have a link where I can download the model?

InSanic
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InSanic

IIRC he doesn’t give out the models anymore, as people used to steal them.

Mario
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Mario

What a shame.

Galvars
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Galvars

There is a special place in Hell for them.

Ryan
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Ryan

Yep, and that special place is called Marvel Comics.

Joe
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Joe

I am wondering why is the hanger moved back and leaving space between the two side arms? the venator and acclamator didnt do that but i know the Arquitens-class command cruiser did.

JorTanos
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I’d say more protection for starters. Probably also tractor beams on turrets that would have better maneuvering ability on the arms to pull things in.

AlexHurlbut
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AlexHurlbut

the space there is less than what the canon arts depicted for it, so it’s much better.

CIS Droid Army
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CIS Droid Army

I love the design! Would it be a front line ship?

N/A
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N/A

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Dale Norman
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Dale Norman

I know Wookiepedia lists this as 600 meters long, but i can find nothing on other dimensions. What scale did you use?

Jace911
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Jace911

I always had a sweet spot for these unconventional looking ships, I love pocket warships like this. Have you ever considered doing any First Order designs? I’d drool over your rendition of a Resurgent Star Destroyer.

Supremacy Class Dreadnought
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Supremacy Class Dreadnought

Without the overexposed bridge hangers engine reactor sensor and com systems, and over a design was the top and bottom halves of the ship have minored missile and torpedo systems interdiction gravity well longer-ranged turbolaser and ion cannon and longer-ranged missile and torpedo systems would be nice

Atomic Hobo
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Atomic Hobo

Wow, this looks amazing. Then again, all of your work does. But still, I’m so happy to see this! I always thought that the Gladiator was vastly under-represented, especially for such a versatile ship! The Empire was never particularly smart about deploying smaller more flexible ships as escorts for ISDs. Had they been more tactically and strategically flexible, maybe they would’ve stood a chance against the Rebels.

Jacob
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Jacob

I love it. Thank you for making one of my favorite Star Wars ships. It looks great. I can only imagine what you might do for the redux if you do decide to do one.

Kal Skirata
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Kal Skirata

I love your work, Fractal! This is a great design. I am familiar with the Gladiator-class Star Destroyer, is this it or is this just based off of the Gladiator SD? Also, is this intended as a long-range scout/patrol craft or does it have more of a dedicated fleet role (like starfighter screening or fast attack)? Thanks for the great designs and keep up the good work!

CFletch
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CFletch

It’s the same ship, he just classed it as a frigate in keeping with his normal classification. And rightly so, since it’s always been described as a 600m ship and that’s way too small to be a Star Destroyer. If I recall correctly this was an escort/carrier designed to allow the late Clone War fleets of Victory-class ships (which they were designed to complement) to retain fighter capability, since the Venetors were supposed to be phased out in favor of more dedicated fighting ships such as the Victory (and later the Imperator). The Clone Wars ended before they could really… Read more »

Kal Skirata
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Kal Skirata

Thanks for the answer. The reason for my question was that I knew the Gladiator was 600m, but to me that seems a little large to be classified as a frigate. I thought the same thing about the Proclamator (beautiful ship, by the way). I know Star Destroyer scaling starts at 1,000m, but I thought ships around 600-800m were classified as conventional destroyers. I could be wrong though. Still not completely clear on how SW capital ship scaling works.

Ryadra777
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The Gladiator and Proclamator are more specifically classified as Heavy Frigates. The latter of which would be classified as a Star destroyer (Although a Light Star Destroyer) in the Republic Navy before being reclassified as a Heavy Frigate in the Imperial Navy.

CFletch
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CFletch

Exactly. Our host here uses, as far as I can tell, a sort of Imperialized version of the Anaxes War College System, one modified to reflect the state of ships by the time of the Empire. Prior to the Clone Wars a 600m ship was a capable main-line combat ship in many navies, but the war pretty much ended that and made the Star Destroyer as we know it, starting around 1km in length, the basic fighting ships of the major powers. This results in a lot of previously large ships (like the Dreadnought Cruiser, or the Gladiator SD) getting… Read more »

Jonathan
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Jonathan

In my head cannon their are many competing systems of capital ship classification systems. I propose that the Anaxes system is a simplified compromise between the KDY system and the Rusaan Reformation system.

Kal Skirata
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Kal Skirata

Thank you to everyone who responded to my comment. It helped clarify some things on ship classification. A was a little surprised to see that on the Anaxes system, cruisers are classified below star destroyers in length (400-1000m). That doesn’t make too much sense to me, I always saw cruisers and star destroyers with overlapping classifications. I guess I feel there’s more to SD classification than just length, like dagger shape for instance, although that wouldn’t apply to some ships classified as star destroyers. Anyway, Fractal classifies cruisers on the Anaxes system as frigates in his own system, which would… Read more »

CFletch
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CFletch

There are Cruisers (smaller than an SD in Anaxes) and “Star” Cruisers/Battlecruisers (bigger than an SD in Anaxes). Fractal has used Star Cruiser and Star Battlecruiser (the Compellor and Bellator are examples of those, respectively). It can be seen as an artifact of the fact that before the Clone Wars the cruiser-sized ships under Anaxes were treated as cruisers in naval doctrine, ie as the largest non-capitol ships. This is the real-life use of the word capitol ship, for which Wikipedia gives a decent definition: “These characteristics define a capital ship: if the capital ships are beaten, the navy is… Read more »

TheIcthala
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TheIcthala

As I understand it (please correct me if I’m wrong, Fractal) Fractal’s system translates real world wet navy classifications as closely as possible with the Star Destroyer representing the tactical/strategic role played by destroyers IRL. So: Corvettes are the smallest, most lightly armed warships, generally used for escort and lone patrol. Frigates are larger and more heavily armed, but usually fulfil a similar role. Destroyers are larger still. Cruisers are larger and more powerful than Destroyers, and will often lead forces of Destroyers, Frigates, and Corvettes. Battlecruisers are the next step up. Dreadnoughts top the table, being the pinnacles of… Read more »

Kal Skirata
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Kal Skirata

Ok, thanks. That’s how I originally thought it worked because, like you said, it’s based off of real world wet navies. I think I just got confused, mostly by the emphasis on star destroyers–which seem to encroach on the role of cruisers–and the fact no one seems to use traditional destroyers as a classification. So, to rationalize the classification structure in my mind, I’ll list my interpretation below. The roles will be pretty much the same as you have above–that’s pretty much how I thought the roles went anyway. Note–I will be using a combination of roles and length. I… Read more »

Kal Skirata
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Kal Skirata

One thing I forgot to mention is the prefix ‘star’. It can be added to any of the ship classes (except carrier) which changes the role of the ship slightly. A ship with the prefix ‘star’ before its class name shows that it’s a more substantial ship intended more for engagements with ships of a similar size or larger. Those without the prefix ‘star’ are generally the standard of that class and oriented in more of an escort or support role.

Ryan
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Ryan

Interesting take on it. For my head-canon, I’ve just been using the Anaxes classification system explanation given in the Essential Guide to Warfare: mostly size-based (though with some exceptions as a concession to certain vessels’ role in fleet doctrine), with “Star Destroyer” and “Star Dreadnought” being KDY corporate designations that were in such widespread colloquial use in the Navy that they were adopted by the Anaxes War College despite the way they clash with the classification system in traditional (wet) Navies. By their argument, the inconsistencies that crop up in having things like Mon Cal “Star Cruisers” that are smaller… Read more »

Serbob
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Serbob

this is a gorgeous model, though it does feel a bit crowded.
Is there a reason why the gun above the fore hangar doors isn’t mirrored on the ship? it makes it feel a bit lopsided.

Alex
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Alex

it is really beautiful ship, but it looks a littlebit overgunned compared to ISD or Proclamator. It have so many guns and big hangars at the same for such low hull volume

Daniel Shenise
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Daniel Shenise

On the lower “bridge” position, is that like hangar approach control or something along those lines? Or were you kinda filling a space.

And I’m really appreciating all the comparative size shots with other vessels. That’s a very welcome addition to your rendering sets. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

Especially the Kontos, that’s my fav small Capital ship.

Kal Skirata
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Kal Skirata

Mine too, and it pairs really well with the Velox.

CFletch
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CFletch

I love this thing. A nice escort/patrol ship for when a full destroyer would be overkill. I especially like the Victory/Gladiator/Proclamator group shot showing a Clone Wars task force lineup.

I really like the new trend to group shots in general with your newer stuff. It really helps put things in perspective.

How would this line up in terms of acceleration?

Aaron Johnson
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Aaron Johnson

I would also love to see you come up with “canon” New Republic warship and starfighter concepts. The movies gave us so little to go on (which was a tragedy creatively) – even the Raddus was supposed to be an outdated warship. I guess we also have the Starhawk, but that seems like a war-time stopgap measure. However with the lack of much official content, I could see that leaving you a lot of room to create creative capital ship ideas and a new design language, and I think your take would be fascinating. Questions that I wonder: – Would… Read more »

Aaron Johnson
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Aaron Johnson

Just curious, why don’t you do more MonCal ships? Its always been kind of frustrating to me how its really hard to pick out weapons placements on most illustrations of ships like Home One, Liberty Class, and later models like MC85 or MC90. It would be really interesting to see your modified spin on ships like this.

Chris
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Chris

LOVE IT!!!! Love these smaller ships. Is there a chance to get an open hangar shot with a shuttle with TIE escort launching?

Jannika
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Jannika

This might just be my new favorite of your work, it feels so damn practical and compact

InSanic
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InSanic

I’m surprised you didn’t include an open-hangar shot, but I’m just glad you made this. By the way, does it have any torpedo or concussion missile tubes on it? I know the official stats listed some of those, but I don’t know if you found actual room for them, and I don’t see any in these images.

Road Warrior
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Road Warrior

Fantastic! My favorite small destroyer! Great job Ansel.