Basilisk War “Droid” WIP#1

Commissioned piece. This comes from the Old Republic era comics, and in the original iteration were frankly totally insane. There were Mandalorians riding these droid like vehicles in vacuum without a cockpit, and the original was something that looked like a trilobite meets an Opee from the prequels, with unusable limbs that seemed to be there just for show. Some of the art later got more functional looking, but still the idea seemed nuts to me. To impose some sort of order on the design and the concept, I figured it was basically a flying Robotech style mech/fighter.

The legs can either grab or walk, depending on the mode. There’s some precedent in my older stuff with the Zeta carry-all, and I figure this was an older attempt at a combat version of the same basic idea. Walker mode is basically to slide under shielding and overawe infantry, or offer some level of mobility in poor repulsorlift environments. Once under a shield, it can offer aircraft mobility via repulsorlift, though not starfighter performance. But in either mode, it offers nowhere near the efficiency of dedicated surface or flying vehicles. Perhaps marginally less crazy than the original design, and hopefully cooler looking.

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Nick
Nick
1 year ago

Hey Fractal, I changed my mind I love this design. I was wondering actually, There is one star fighter from legends that just bugs the hell out of me. Seeing as how you have a knack for fixing crappy designs, i was wondering if you’d get around to the TIE Raptor that Warlord Zsinj used, one day for fun?

Chris Bradshaw
Chris Bradshaw
1 year ago

Ladies and gents, for the last few months some folks have asked if there’s potential for a Fractalsponge Community Discord to better keep track of all the ridiculous arguments we have here.

So, I’d like to see how much interest there is before I set one up. Link below.

https://forms.gle/vAiWZM3ax6keHdweA

Frank Rizzo
Frank Rizzo
1 year ago

I love it!

Frank Rizzo
Frank Rizzo
1 year ago

Ah, a Val Varo from Gundam 0083. 🙂

QueazyAK
QueazyAK
1 year ago

The “Hands” remind me of the Omnidroid from The Incredibles.

CRMcNeill
CRMcNeill
1 year ago

So, basically what you have here is a… sky walker? 0:-)

Silent Disapproval Robot
Silent Disapproval Robot
1 year ago
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CRMcNeill
CRMcNeill
1 year ago

LMAO

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
1 year ago

Best username & one-line reaction I’ve seen in ages.

Shaun
Shaun
1 year ago

I can’t take all the credit… I remember some Harvard (or was it Yale?) grads had built one of the first chatbots online and it never worked, but one of the bot’s ‘personas’ (that was actually probably a grad student getting paid to respond) was ‘Silent Disapproval Robot’… That was back in…1999…I think?

But I use it on occasion where it’s very important, though…

CRMcNeill
CRMcNeill
1 year ago
Reply to  Shaun

Well played. The dad joke was just too awful to keep to myself, and the response was more than worth it.

jamallamadingdong
jamallamadingdong
1 year ago
Reply to  CRMcNeill

Agreed.

LazerZ
LazerZ
1 year ago

I actually rather like the original design, insane as it is. However, this take on it is pretty dang awesome.

Steven A Futrell
Steven A Futrell
1 year ago

Have you ever thought about doing ships from the hyperspace wars? Those ancient sith vessels were just so beautiful. I think you would do them some serious justice.

Valoren
Valoren
1 year ago

Frankly guys, I don’t really get your gripes with the concept…

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
1 year ago
Reply to  Valoren

I’d be eyerolling less if those things were supplementing infantry stuff. Jousting maneuvers vs. starfighters just flips my ‘gimme a kriffin’ break’ switch.

Valoren
Valoren
1 year ago
Reply to  gorkmalork

That I understand, but fundamentally, as a ground-support unit they’re not worst than speeder bikes, in fact they’re significantly better armed and more robust. And yeah, the rider is exposed, but you have to keep in mind that that thing is supposedly a semi-autonomous droid.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
1 year ago
Reply to  Valoren

Agreed in full they actually make *more* sense than many SW open-cockpit atmospheric vehicles. Keyword there being ‘atmospheric’.

Valoren
Valoren
1 year ago
Reply to  gorkmalork

Well, canonically a TIE is not that much more voluminous and its pilot is also fully exposed to the vacuum of space. The vulture is all at once a walker, a droid and a starfighter… what I’m saying is that, in a star wars setting, it’s not as far-fetched an idea as it’s made out to be. Obviously the lack of cockpit would be handicapping in other way (notably from an inertial dampener or reentry friction point of view) but yeah… and also, sorry but I find it immensely badass.

Valoren
Valoren
1 year ago
Reply to  Valoren

…and kinda cute in a big, derpy way.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
1 year ago
Reply to  Valoren

Eh, besides expanded perching options Vultures are fairly stock snub material. Aesthetic preferences are understandable, though. Starting to wonder what those things would look like with a bunch of scaled-up lightsabers fitted to the schnozz-holes.

PhantomFury
PhantomFury
1 year ago
Reply to  Valoren

I think inertial dampeners just projects an area of effect, so it shouldn’t matter if you are in the cockpit or not – if memory serves, the Lady Luck even got a section that is like a “balcony” with atmosphere bubble and such and it’s safe to assume dampeners work out there too. And reentry, if you ignore Canderous’ boast about his armor glowing red hot (which while I’ll give beskar a lot of miracles properties, insane heat insulation isn’t one of them), Tales of the Jedi comic briefly mentioned that they got energy shielding so maybe there would be some form of ray shielding to protect the rider from the reentry heat – an aspect actually present for all SW ship’s descent procedure.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
1 year ago
Reply to  PhantomFury

Well, presumably ships with dampener/pressure-curtained ‘balcony/skylight’ areas aren’t expecting said areas to be in use during combat, what with factoring in debris/radiation/flash hazards *besides* direct hits. Unless we’re talking vacuum-armored boarding party action, in which case airlocks still strike me as more practical.

PhantomFury
PhantomFury
1 year ago
Reply to  gorkmalork

A presence of particle shielding should also provide some protection against stray debris, though if the rider crouch down like a motorcycle, they would present themselves very little cross section to be hit with by things that wouldn’t already hit the Basilisk. But as you have mentioned, their specialty is really on the ground to support infantry so they aren’t in any more danger than a typical speeder bike grunt. (in regards to your gripe against their usage against starfighters, if you look at the KotOR comic reference pic, you will see Mandos actually using starfighters for majority of the dogfight; heck even in the overall picture where what scene came from, one basilisk was latched onto the the Inexpugnable capital ship blasting away at its hull with the shockwave generator rods snoot; almost like an oversized buzz droid, which might explain why they were deployed; aside from taking troops planetside, of course)

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
1 year ago
Reply to  Fractalsponge

I take it you’re referring to personnel mucking around in pressure curtain/dampener-bubble areas of a starship in combat? This reply chain ran *just* long enough to get a tad confusing.

PhantomFury
PhantomFury
1 year ago
Reply to  gorkmalork

Good time as any to advocate again for a local Discord! Even if you don’t use the voicechat (as I don’t) it coould be easier to keep track of convos.

Legionary
Legionary
1 year ago
Reply to  gorkmalork

Gorkmalork well you gotta remember that the mandalorians of that time wore beskar armor and beskar is virtually indestructible so them having open cockpits isn’t so bad in addition to that the Basilisks are semi-sentient and were bonded to their riders that and also the riders themselves did wear harness’s of a sort to keep them from falling off of them.

And all of this allowed the Basilik to function in a variety of roles such as a infantry supporter, vehicle destroyer, they could attack capital ships or fight with fighters, they were kind of the ultimate multi-role vehicle.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
1 year ago
Reply to  Legionary

…I’ll buy ‘unusually durable alloy,’ but ‘unobtainium so tough your pilots/drivers don’t need any other protection’? Especially in space combat? Waaay too close to Sun Crusher-tier techno-wank for my tastes. Especially if it’s common enough that one could armor an entire conventional fleet.

PhantomFury
PhantomFury
1 year ago
Reply to  gorkmalork

Guess I’ll join your side on this aspect: Neo-Crusader armors are probably just conventional durasteel/plastoid since it has to be mass-produced to an insane scale of assimilation they went through on the Mandalorian Wars. Beskar is probably reserved for those with still individualistic armor like the Mandalore.

PhantomFury
PhantomFury
1 year ago
Reply to  Fractalsponge

It’s not even the strongest SW metal compared to the likes of Phrik; a container of which survived the Alderaan blast. But yes, I agree, aside from being essentially MCU Vibranium of SW metallurgy, beskar is something that does need some nerfing (aside from how heavy it is) – perhaps something we will see in the upcoming Mando show? Protagonist might have beskar armor considering how he shrugged off rounds that would kill any random grunt with plastoid “armor”.

PhantomFury
PhantomFury
1 year ago
Reply to  Fractalsponge

It was on the planet’s surface I believe, and yeah, while planet might be shattered (and is now an asteroid field) a metal box just being unscathed from all that does push it a bit for me.

CT2222
CT2222
1 year ago
Reply to  Fractalsponge

Yeah,there are quite a few… interesting things in the EU. Like Doddona calcs. Or Fraction of C Luke. Or Fraction of C Clones

gthompsn
gthompsn
1 year ago

MUCH better than the original comic concept. I am not so keen on the limbs-with-shields that extend from the tail: what is their purpose?

PhantomFury
PhantomFury
1 year ago
Reply to  gthompsn

The description covers Fractal’s Zeta-class ship, it’s to grab and carry things.

gthompsn
gthompsn
1 year ago
Reply to  PhantomFury

Thanks, I missed it when I read through stuff the first time.

Shaun
Shaun
1 year ago
Reply to  PhantomFury

I like that the concept works at a fundamental level as a work-all or utility tug–adapted from their industrial works or ship-building heritage–and adapted out of necessity to suit their rapid militarization and/or specific needs for capturing resources/material.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
1 year ago

…dunno how I tuned those things out on my last KOTOR collection readthrough; maybe the snazzy Republic dounut-battlewagons and weaponized asteroid slugs (sorry, exogorths) were just distracting enough. But honestly: if that era’s Mandos were sharp enough at space warfare to make an OR defensive blockade look like lobotomized nerf calves (via the brilliant ‘lob BDZ warheads *through/around* said fleet’ approach), things you *ride* have no place besides *maybe* superheavy speeder bike-style armed recon. Also, I keep expecting one or more of those Aureks to sprout limbs & turn this into a Transformers crossover.

PhantomFury
PhantomFury
1 year ago
Reply to  gorkmalork

The Serroco incident shouldn’t be taken as an example of Mando ideology though, for it’s more of a demonstration of power/contempt. Otherwise they would just be brazen and charge right on in to prove themselves worthy for personal glory, which is where the exposure of the rider comes in.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
1 year ago
Reply to  PhantomFury

Gotta admit that this whole ‘normally they’d just be throwing everything into a spaceborne cavalry charge’ angle does not exactly boost my respect for OR-era Mando tactical acumen. Sometimes I wonder if they were one of many SW odds & ends that could’ve *remained* a mystery without much loss.

PhantomFury
PhantomFury
1 year ago
Reply to  gorkmalork

Mando never really bother with tactics, it’s something worth noting that while their culture is assimilation-based, the only time they fight for keeps is during the Mandalorian Wars. Before that, they were war-glorifying bunch that charges into the strongest possible opponent to prove themselves and then back to wherever they came from, and after the war, fragmented into the underworld seeking personal glory and it practically remained that way. (Unless you go the TCW route)

n/a
n/a
1 year ago

lowkey nightmare inducing

Shaun
Shaun
1 year ago
Reply to  n/a

Kinda like all those Gen I Impstars with giant lasers plugging their hanger holes…
[From the new SWIX trailer.]

Ryadra777
1 year ago
Reply to  Shaun

Yeah like the Fulminatrix, ugh.

CRMcNeill
CRMcNeill
1 year ago
Reply to  Shaun

Please don’t let that be the Tector…

Shaun
Shaun
1 year ago
Reply to  CRMcNeill

Nah… That would be too…deep? deliberate? meta? calculated? willful?

Something like that.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
1 year ago
Reply to  Shaun

I also gotta headscratch WRT those ludicrously tight Space Box Formations(C). The Nu-Rebel freighter fleet bit looks especially collision-prone.

Daib
Daib
1 year ago
Reply to  gorkmalork

Hopefully, the fleet shot is just a staging area photo formation and they split up for the fight against the Nu-Katana fleet. At least there’s a lot of easter eggs for us dedicated ship-watchers in the shot from every era.

PhantomFury
PhantomFury
1 year ago
Reply to  gorkmalork

But how else would JJ flex ILM’s vehicle asset and cover up his inability to forge new ship design (cause he don’t understand SW design language [refer to: TFA, Finn’s electrobinoculars in trailer]) in a single shot?

PhoenixKnight
PhoenixKnight
1 year ago
Reply to  PhantomFury

Is Finn’s more bulky than Luke’s in ANH?

PhantomFury
PhantomFury
1 year ago
Reply to  PhoenixKnight

It just look like someone took a small normal binocular, snap it in half, and glue it underneath a bigger normal binocs.

Valoren
Valoren
1 year ago
Reply to  PhantomFury

I also love how it insist specifically on the binocs, as if to say « remember that detail from the OT, we’ve got one too ! » except not as good or iconic… just like everything else in the new trilogy.
I think the ISDs shown in the trailer are the same models used for rogue one and solo.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
1 year ago
Reply to  Shaun

Cripes, right out of the current Marvel run-specifically, the ‘Mutiny At Mon Calamari’ arc, where we see a couple destroyers bombarding something with said hangar-lazors. Did peeps just…forget Impstars can roll & their main guns are all the DETH(C) an unshielded surface target would need?

Chris Bradshaw
Chris Bradshaw
1 year ago
Reply to  gorkmalork

Maybe they’re getting their impression of Impstar main battery potency from that clip in Rebels where they barely have the concussive power of hand grenades and none of the fragmentary killing potential.

Also, there should be no way that they deem the new Siege-Destroyer a Tector, as Leeland Chee confirmed that the hangarless ISD from ROTJ was a Tector.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
1 year ago
Reply to  Chris Bradshaw

I’ll admit to immense misgivings WRT that other trailer bit where main characters seem to be riding some flavor of space llama down the upper starboard side of what almost looks like an Executor. They pass right beneath an admittedly PD-scale dual turret as it’s firing with zero concern.

Ryadra777
1 year ago
Reply to  gorkmalork

They don’t exactly look like Llamas, they more like a hybrid between the Llama’s body and the Entelodont’s mouth, a.k.a The Hell Pig, with tiny elephant tusks.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
1 year ago
Reply to  Ryadra777

Sounds more interesting than TLJ’s racetrack beasties. Not sure what they’re doing in the middle of fleet maneuvers-maybe someone cracked open a livestock container.

TheIcthala
TheIcthala
1 year ago
Reply to  gorkmalork

Perhaps they’re out of speeders and similar, but the mission requires that they land on a point defence blind spot (possibly created by battle damage, possibly by wear and tear from the ship being wherever it’s been these past decades) a long way away from their entry point, and traverse the hull quickly. The ‘gotta go fast’ mission requirements could combine with the lack of technological fast vehicles to necessitate the use of space horses.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
1 year ago
Reply to  TheIcthala

Sounds fair-ish if this is some kinda naval-yard infiltration gig involving a ‘light supply accident’, and the tug jockeys are too busy having an impromptu hydrospanner duel to run a proper starmustang headcount.

Shaun Smakal
Shaun Smakal
1 year ago
Reply to  TheIcthala

I can basically GUARANTEE that whatever the reason is, it won’t make nearly as much sense as that.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
1 year ago
Reply to  Shaun Smakal

Sad but true. 50 creds says we’re in for a ‘leap from ship to ship’ chase scene.

PhantomFury
PhantomFury
1 year ago
Reply to  gorkmalork

“Our dedicated siege pizza destroyer didn’t even rack up a single casualty last bombardment, we will get them this time with a fleet of old ships retrofitted with it!”

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
1 year ago
Reply to  PhantomFury

Come to think of it, those theater shield-poppers wouldn’t look too bad in a proper dreadnought’s bow. Destroyer-scale versions might be good for alpha-striking Golan-style fixed platforms.

PhantomFury
PhantomFury
1 year ago

I’d prefer an open cockpit concept. Sure, it’s insane, but Mandalorians usually dislike relying on heavy machinery to do combat for them. One way to think of it is Bes’uliik as their trusty steed and not a siege platform. As for purpose, it has two main purposes: rapid deployment, something in line of a dropship and speed boost in a straight line to get to the battlefield as fast as possible all the while wreaking the most havoc with those archaic shockwave generator rods; and if in atmosphere, low altitude air support, something more of a gunship than a fighter craft, soaking tons of damage as they tear through ground targets. While having spindly cargo-legs does give it additional use, typical Mando warfare usually don’t see them carry anymore stuff than just the warrior themselves and whatever they have on them; the stubby original legs I suspect is just there to rest the tail section during repulsorlift deactivation. As the current design, I can pass this off as a more modern MandalMotors homage to the past while trying to be more practical to mass market. (Sorry if I sound a little heated, guess the original design grew on me in my Mando fanboy phase.)

PhantomFury
PhantomFury
1 year ago
Reply to  Fractalsponge

Of course, I’m not expectig an exact recreation of the original, since it won’t be interesting if the artist don’t add their own spin on things. My issue of sorts is the different mentality behind the creation. Granted, this version is still better than the total cop-out KotOR 2 took when it come to the Basilisk. I can’t really describe what my affinity towards the original design is but I know one of the things that lead me down the path is the quote from Canderous in KotOR 1 where he describes the battle with one. (Found it, here you go: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D883YDu-PzU ) As for the Mando-Luddite part, a way to think about it was that the droid was merely a mechanical replacement for the species it was named after when they went extinct. In a relevant note, Mando’s favor towards unassisted personal combat can be seen by their lack of notable military vehicles (this may have changed in TOR, and MandalMotors is kind of a commercial company with Mando roots perhaps trying to capitalize on Mando’s warring reputation). They don’t have tanks, their dedicated drop ship is only viable as a transport and is designed to land as fast as possible, etc. Sure they got gadgets bulit in their iconic armor, but at the end of the day, they are the ones that get the job done, not some heavy duty machine. Basilisk can perhaps be seen in this light, not just as a steed/pet but an extension of the user. Like what’s seen with the reference picture above in the KotOR comic, the droid is imitating the user, not press a button and the enemy is dead. Perhaps in this way, they are more Amish where they avoid blatant mass-killer (Cassus Fett was disliked by many for the genocide at Cathar) but will do what s needed to get things done. All that being said, I’ll still follow the progress of this build and see what is your vision for the Mandalorian war machine!

Mister_DK
Mister_DK
1 year ago
Reply to  Fractalsponge

” And did you just claim some Mando Luddite purity in combat while talking about a mechanized personal dropship?”

Reactionaries like the Mandalorians always harken back to an imagined past, and then amplify their vision of restored hierarchies that never existed with the latest technology. There is no contradiction there, any more than the Nazi fascination with dueling scars, occult, and aryan cities in the Himalayas while simultaneously building rockets.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
1 year ago
Reply to  Mister_DK

My problem there is basically reconciling all this ‘glory in personal combat & Space Cavalry Jousting’ stuff with the Legends (and to some degree Disneyboot) material hyping Mandos up as one of the top 5 most formidable SW factions. Nazi Germany’s military efficiency was not exactly *helped* by eccentricities along the lines you mention.

Daib
Daib
1 year ago
Reply to  Fractalsponge

Bad luck then that you’ve gotten a half dozen mando commissions. Were they all from the same guy?

PhantomFury
PhantomFury
1 year ago
Reply to  Fractalsponge

As a guy that went through that phase, I think I can sum up the mentality behind Mando hype as “not wanting to be in the Jedi or Sith gang but wanting to keep up to be relevant” and a certain appeal in watching some warrior beat up a bunch of wizards with just his fist and a rock. Of course with this comes…greatly exaggerated tales of their exploit and tech. And those who don’t dig enough to embrace the family-centric nature of their cuture will just further hype up the “mando’ade uber alles” trope.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
1 year ago
Reply to  PhantomFury

I can sympathize with the personal-level ‘crazy-prepared fighter takes cocky Forcemonkey down a few pegs’ angle, though mid-90s Legends!Fett’s laundry list of feats (“The Sarlacc found me somewhat indigestible”…please) is where they started to lose me.

PhantomFury
PhantomFury
1 year ago
Reply to  gorkmalork

I can see this angle as well, though Fett didn’t survive the Sarlacc alone, as he had help from Dengar and spent some time recuperating. That said, I’ll gladly draw the line on Fett taking in age-decelerating meds to make him live substantially longer and how he is constantly in his prime, never to pass the baton off.

Mister_DK
Mister_DK
1 year ago
Reply to  gorkmalork

What we have seen has not been Mandalorians conquering, the taking, holding, and administering of territory. We’ve seen them as raiders. You don’t need weapons that match and defeat a well trained professional combined arms force or long running locally supported guerrillas when what you are doing is a surprise attack against an unprepared and defenseless force. Sure, there may be a local militia with long guns, but against small arms even a terrible IFV will dominate.

“Move fast, strike hard, burn what you can’t carry off” will give you a warrior reputation against a largely peaceful force, just like it was for vikings and mongols against peasant farmers.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
1 year ago
Reply to  Mister_DK

That ‘build up brutal rep by picking hit-and-runs ruthlessly’ dynamic actually works for me. What does *not* work would be much of that Legends-vintage wank along the lines of, say, unsupported dropships successfully zerg-rushing an (undamaged) Executor. Oddly enough, thusfar the Disneyboot’s lower-scale handling of Mando action struck me as rather less rigoddamndiculous.

Chris Bradshaw
Chris Bradshaw
1 year ago
Reply to  gorkmalork

Scandinavian raiders usually had to scatter when faced with real opposition, but the Mongol army could consistently take on the best of Imperial China, Abbasid Arabia, and Christian Europe in conventional battles. Their strengths were primarily logistical and organizational rather than just being the best at 1v1 brawling. That doesn’t sound particularly Mandalorian.

IMHO, the Mando emphasis on individual warrior prowess sounds a lot more like 16th century Italian dueling culture or perhaps Edo period Samurai.

PhantomFury
PhantomFury
1 year ago
Reply to  Chris Bradshaw

Yeah, logistics is pretty alien to Mando culture, brought about by Cassus Fett for the sake of fighting for keeps and not just raiding. Guess you could in a way call Mandos closer to Mongols during the Mando War?

Daib
Daib
1 year ago
Reply to  Fractalsponge

I dunno, I remember Napoleon’s Grande ArmĂ©e and the Heer’s Army Group Centre pretty well. Dead, sure, but certainly not forgotten.

Daib
Daib
1 year ago
Reply to  Fractalsponge

Organizations with excellent logistics don’t lose hundreds of thousands of men to starvation and frostbite. Granted, the Russian winter and Rasputitsa are hell, but they both still screwed up big time.

CRMcNeill
CRMcNeill
1 year ago
Reply to  Daib

How do you figure extreme weather is the Logistics Corps’ fault? Did they forget to stock up on sunlight?

Daib
Daib
1 year ago
Reply to  CRMcNeill

You can’t bring sunlight, but you can and should bring adequate amounts of food, fuel, winter coats, and tents. Telling the men that you’ll smash the Rooskies in a couple of big fights and to just live off the land in the meanwhile is just plain irresponsible.

CRMcNeill
CRMcNeill
1 year ago
Reply to  Daib

Logistics aren’t miracle workers, and it’s the commander’s job to know his forces’ limitations, including that of his logistics. Napoleon’s ego is where the failure occurred, by assuming that it really would be that easy.

Mister_DK
Mister_DK
1 year ago
Reply to  Daib

Napoleon is infamous for his logistics and the long run impact was the complete overhaul of European social order adapting to it.

Ryadra777
1 year ago

Very interesting and your model of it seems to look like an imperial refit, also the height of the Basilisk is said to be between 2.98 m to 5 m, but I wonder, how big is your version is fractal?

Shaun
Shaun
1 year ago

Wow. That’s a ballsy commission. I’ll be honest but this is one of the main things that has always led me to write off/lose all interest in the Old Republic side of things–too many sharks have been jumped.

But, kudos for taking it on. Certainly interested to see how you make it work.

CRMcNeill
CRMcNeill
1 year ago
Reply to  Shaun

I always thought the concept of a flying droid as a warmount was an interesting one, especially for a culture known for its iconic armor; it was the realization of the concept that fell flat (as with so many other things from the Dark Horse comics). Looking forward to seeing how this one turns out.

countvertex
1 year ago
Reply to  CRMcNeill

I have to agree – taking away the warmount aspect I think is giving away a main feature that makes the design interesting. Also agreed that it would belong more on the fantastic side of Star Wars than on the realistic side.
Maybe include both? A regular cockpit and an external control stand for atmospheric operations?

PhantomFury
PhantomFury
1 year ago
Reply to  CRMcNeill

Curious as to what problems you have with the Dark Horse comics? Coming from a guy who really like the KotOR comic series, I saw no problems with the implementation of the basillisk?

Shaun
Shaun
1 year ago
Reply to  PhantomFury

Oh, I’d say it’s really just a personal thing–I think Dark Horse ran a relatively solid set of arcs and I really did love the games on all levels–it was just a lot of things at the time that was over-saturating my ability and desire to process MOAR STAR WARS.

PhantomFury
PhantomFury
1 year ago
Reply to  Shaun

Ah so kind of like the Star Wars burnout people talked about (and I do admit to feeling) with all the movie releases for the last several years?

CRMcNeill
CRMcNeill
1 year ago
Reply to  PhantomFury

For me, it was the slipshod artwork and the extra servings of cheese and corn in all their plotlines in the early editions (particularly the TotJ comics). I’ve said elsewhere that the only positive to come out of the Dark Horse comics was to provide Fractal with an unlimited number of opportunities to prove that you actually can polish a turd. From what little I’ve seen of the KotOR comics, their quality has improved since the early days, but the best versions of the ships and vehicles seen in Dark Empire, Tales of the Jedi, etc, are found here on this website.

PhantomFury
PhantomFury
1 year ago
Reply to  CRMcNeill

Ah so it’s just from the artwork perspective. Then yeah I can agree with you, TotJ was pretty weird though not always in the best of ways and the story itself was also pretty mediocre at time. Concerning the basilisk, I guess I can see why many could be put off by the some battle-prawn design but I think it’s really something of an aquired taste. (I’ll admit, at first I thought it was oretty weird too but then it grew on me) But that being said, since you mentioned not seeing it, I do highly recommend the KotOR comics if you have the time. It’s art style varies with the artist, ranging from really good to kinda poor but the overall story is one of the best in my opinion.