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STONEhenk
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STONEhenk

What is the lenght of this? And by length I mean the length Fractal says it is.

The SWTCW Freak
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The SWTCW Freak

Fractal why the f*ck are you so good.
Wow.Respect!

admrl hill
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admrl hill

how many weapons

Brendan
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Brendan

Fractal, when you release these renders could you also include a small paragraph listing estimated dimensions as well as total # of xyz weapons you modeled on it?

I can count the bigger weapons but can’t zoom in enough to reliably count the # of medium/light turbolasers, let alone point-defense laser cannons!

STONEhenk
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STONEhenk

I counted a total of 14 venator-style HTL’s (I think supposed to be 16 because 2 lacks on the right side of the bridge-tower) and 63 quad MTL’s (I think supposed to be 64).
No LTL’s so far as I can see.

Sephiroth0812
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Sephiroth0812

So, just that I get the context right:
This ship is the very first Battlecruiser mentioned for the Post-Ruusan Republic in the Legends-lore?
The predecessor of the Praetor Mk I-class which had such a shitty hyperdrive it was only effective for defensive operations during the Clone Wars?

Valoren
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so, just comparing the hull and the bridge tower, I would say a size around 3,5 km, with 37 heavy turbolasers batteries and 6 heavy ion batteries as its main armament.

LazyReader
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LazyReader

According to the essential guide to warfare, it’s 2,500 meters long

Valoren
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Well, it wouldn’t be the first time Fractal and the EGTW disagree on something.

Tony
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Tony

I don’t know how you get these angles in your models, i would so love to see a from start to finish video by you.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

So in the hanger there are 8 medium hanger bays in which each bay carry a full wing of 72 light fighters like TIE Fighters, Interceptors, Hunters and Avengers or a smaller wing of heavy fighters like Bombers, Defenders, Manglers and Starwings which I guess is half the light fighter wing of 36 heavy fighter wing or less like a either 1/3 or 1/4. Add them all up together and that make the Procurator carried up to 8 wings of light or heavy fighters=576 light fighters or 288 heavy fighters if half or 192 heavy fighters if 1/3 or 144… Read more »

Anonymous
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Anonymous

TEGTW page 167 has Procurator Legends length:

“Bristling with weapons, the twenty-five-hundred-meter Procurator was the template for a series of ever-larger KDY battleships, nominally built to protect Kuat sector but really aimed at attracting contracts from wealthy Core planets, sectors, and powerful mercantile fleets. By the time of the Clone Wars, dozens of battlecruisers defended Core and Colonies sectors. The Procurator-class Star Battlecruiser was refined several times before being supplanted by a four-thousand-meter descendant, the Praetor class, though the Ruusan Reformations limited both classes’ hyperdrive capabilities and armament.”

Grand Admiral 517
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Grand Admiral 517

Oh Procurator-class! I like it! Although I don’t believe it would have been that heavily armed

Norsehound
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I love everything about this. From the rear-deck ‘ears’ to the ISD-I derived bridge to the raised deck and antiquated engines.

Fractal, if you’re bored, could you whip up some contemporaries? I would like to see more ships of this vintage.

Mark
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HOW DID THEY NOT GET YOU TO DO MOVIE DESIGNS!?!?!

This thing is just wonderful! Magnitudes better than the crap they put out for the new trilogy!

Yvan Ung
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Yvan Ung

In Legends, the Procurators were supposed to be 2.5km long; does the model actually seem to match the description given in Legends?

spikedpsycho
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spikedpsycho

Nice that Procurator class ships finally included. Honestly I think the ship is too chunky, stripped of it’s star destroyer sleekness.

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

Abrupt Legends realization: between this beast, Fractal’s Victory & Dreadnaught-class renders, and that in-progress Acclamator combat variant, one could have the makings of a decent Corporate Sector Authority ( http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Corporate_Sector_Authority/Legends ) patrol flotilla. About all you’d be missing are a the Marauder corvettes & IRD interceptors (oh, and the odd Recusant or Lucrehulk).

Anonymous
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Anonymous

So Fractal what are you going to do next the heavy frigate or possibly a Mandator?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

i want resurgent-class battlecruiser

Corausr
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Corausr

After you finished this marvelous piece of art would you consider tackling the Titan class Star Destroyer i would love to see your version and or the Centurion class Dreadnought iirc the ravager flagship of darth nihilus from Kotor 2

PhantomFury
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PhantomFury

It’s beautiful! I am new here, but I have been a fan of your models since I saw them on the SW Wikia. Will you make another reaction post concerning the Mega (*cringe* that naming though) class Star “Destroyer”?

StellarMagic
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StellarMagic

I really hope the Mega-class will turn out to be an error, or resistance slang, or something. If there was one ship of a class built, the class-name should be the same as that ship that was built.

PhantomFury
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PhantomFury

I agree, because Supremacy-clas sounds far more traditional. Even the so-called “Super-class Star destroyer” was just a dud (in Legends). And while they are at that, they might as well not call it a “star destroyer” since the Resurgence-class is dubbed a “battlecruiser” and the 8km Pizza is a “dreadnought”

Jonathan
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Jonathan

I love it

Taghmata Omnissiah
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Taghmata Omnissiah

This is the same “Procurator” class that was build in Republic times? It do look much more and Imperial era ship.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Hey Fractal how many ISD power reactors could compare to the Procurator power reactor like 10-15?

valoren
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Thank for this new addition to the imperial fleet. I like the change of angle in the dorsal hull, the t-shaped bridge tower and the front end’s protruding superstructure block, it give it a fairly special look compared to pretty much all of the other starships in the imperial’s arsenal. Also, since you already talked about the designs from episode 8 on this site, are you going to address the new 60 km wide “mega” star destroyer ? I don’t know if you’re going to dedicate a whole article to it, so soon after the last one, but could you… Read more »

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

I believe Fractal vented some spleen re: that Superduperwedge(R) when someone mentioned it back on the TLJ dreadnought reaction post’s comment section.

valoren
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Thanks.

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

No sweat. Honestly, the hyperwedge doesn’t stick in my craw quite so much as the siege pizzas, but its class name locks my eyeballs firmly in the upright position.

valoren
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Yeah, the same. I mean, since how long has the discussion about the Executor ended ? You think they would have figured it out by now. It should be called a supremacy-class star dreadnought, but if it’s anything like the Executor, it probably will be at some point. The size is completely bonkers though. All the biggest dreadnought created by the original Empire could fit inside the thing. I thought the F.O. was supposed to use its ressources more efficiently, but to this day we’ve only be presented with colossal wastes of material. And since, for scenarists, ramming is the… Read more »

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

@valoren
Seconded on the “where’s Space Daesh finding the resources/funds for all this??” front (though I suppose they *could* have lucked into some uncharted raw-material source or just been bleeding FO worlds dry). At least the damn thing’s ‘only’ several times larger than any prior superheavy, as opposed to ‘Death Star-ballpark flying wing’. Still nuts enough that the following fan-design pisstake link seems relevant (though the rest of that forum thread…:/): https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/imperium-class-ultra-star-destroyer.184259/

RhysT
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RhysT

Wow, I think I’d be hard pressed to find something about this design I ‘Don’t’ like. Simply a fantastic design and concept. As others have said repeatedly: I REALLY wish you were the one designing ships in the new trilogy.

Joannes808
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Joannes808

One can dream no? For me unfortunately, not even the MSD seems to give off that dominating aura that I was anticipating… Seeing Snoke though come out of hyperspace in the bridge of the Wrath with a bunch of these as escort… That would be another story.

Tom Freeman
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Tom Freeman

Beautiful! It’s an odd-looking beast, and I say that in the most complimentary way possible. It really nails the late-century Republic look, and I’m glad Fractal went ahead and used the Procurator class name.

To mirror a frequent sentiment, I wish we could see more designs like this in “official” products, rather than the junk we’re getting…between the Mandator-IV and the Mega-class, I’ve just about given up hope that Disney will ever give us another quality Imperial cap-ship.

Nate The_Great
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Nate The_Great

I agree with your sentiment, good sir. I must, however, disagree with your point on the “Procurator-class” name. There are already illustrations of the Procurator-class, as well as my belief that this vessel does not conform to the outlines set in the Treaty Of Ruusan, and therefore can not possibly be of the Procurator-class.

Nate The_Great
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Nate The_Great

Gr8 design tho. 1 of my favs.

Tom Freeman
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Tom Freeman

It is true that this ship wouldn’t comply with the restrictions on the Republic Navy. If I may point out, however, the Procurator isn’t exclusively a Navy asset; it was something of a vanity project for Kuat Drive Yards, who sold them mainly to defense fleets in rich sectors. Local defense forces, especially in sectors with a lot of money and political clout, wouldn’t necessarily be held to the same limits. Does it make any sort of technical sense? No, but then bureaucracies never do. It would be hilarious to imagine a bunch of these sitting in reserve docks around… Read more »

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

Dunno if ‘in-house fleet asset off central government books’ quite qualifies as ‘vanity project’, but that is a chucklesome picture you paint. Suppose it also hints at why none of the prequel battles chronicling this prominent Jedi or that involved Count Lee-err, Dooku & Grievous screaming at Palpy over holocomms while a Mandator chewed through their fleet in the backdrop.

Sephiroth0812
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Sephiroth0812

The problem with these ships not being shown during the Clone Wars lies not solely within the ostensible claim that they were part of “private” sector fleets (as after the war broke out all those sector fleets were incorporated into the centralized navy) but that most of these bigger ships had very shitty hyperdrives which didn’t allow for them to be used offensively or travel to war theatres outside of the Core and Colonies regions. Both the Procurator-class and the Mandator I (of which very few units existed by the way) fall under this moniker while the Mandator II (of… Read more »

RedBird
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RedBird

Professor Fractal,

The ship is fantastic, however the ship seems to be missing two of the Venator/Victory type HTL turrets on the right-side aft of the conning tower. ;D

Or my turret counting-fu is lacking?

What do you see this ship carrying crew/fighter/troop wise?

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

I only count one small-ish portside turret aft of the bridge which isn’t mirrored to starboard, but good eye. Tempted to visualize this beast hauling roughly 2.5 Venators’ worth of small craft, but I may well be lowballing.

RedBird
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RedBird

One turret is on one of those rectangular platforms near the center-line, the other is on a missing custom base further outboard and to the rear of the first, near the rear edge of the conning tower outcropping.

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

*squints at aforementioned area*
Hm, right you are. Thanks for narrowing that down.

RedBird
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RedBird

I count turrets… lots of zooming in, used scrap paper with tally-marks on them, and sore eyes. ;D

Anonymous
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Anonymous

So the lighting on the Assertor you did recently which look amazing by away you also did with this ship which make me think are you going to do this type of lighting on all your ships you created?
Also the ball turrets on the Procurator is it 175 Teratons caliber?

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

Mercy, the lighting. That *thruster* lighting. The greeble distribution. Somehow deriving yet another distinctive shape from the KDY doomwedge template, even without factoring in the aft-superstructure winglets. Yep, this one’s a keeper.

Steve Bannon
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Steve Bannon

It’s a pity the Clone Wars cartoon animation team was so reluctant to flesh out the upper echelons of the Republic fleet list by sticking to Acclamators, Arquitens, and Venators, all while giving the CIS interesting designs like the Subjugator and the supply ship. Seeing a Procurator or some other battlecruiser in Republic livery delivering a multiple petaton alpha strike on a Lucrehulk was the one thing I was hoping every new season would highlight, but alas.

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

I kinda wonder if having upper-end naval assets drop in & clean house now & again struck someone(s) as “too Imperial crackdown-evocative; fans want Plucky Agents of Peace & Justice, and we’re still pretending the Republic Did Nothing Wrong.” Plus, of course, render budget being saved for story-purpose antagonist devices. Though now I’m wondering how far down a Subjugator’s ion bursts would cut the Munificent count needed to break even with a Mandator.

Steve Bannon
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Steve Bannon

The solution to that is giving the Procurator to a traitorous admiral, or maybe a disloyal sector defense fleet, forcing our Plucky Agents of Peace & Justice to have to shut it down with some trickery. About the Subjugator, since the ion wave seems to expand outwards area-wise fairly rapidly, targets at normal (?) engagement ranges of several light-seconds away can’t be taking that much ion energy, but corvettes, fighters, and other small craft are still probably disabled. A Mandator’s shields should be able to hold that, regardless of how much volume in the Subjugator is devoted to capacitor banks.… Read more »

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

Not a bad scenario. You still might get some “wah why are the good guyz ships THAT Imperial-shaped” flap, but that was half the prequels’ point anyway. Come to think of it, the sort of point-blank mayhem that might give a Subjugator its best disabling shot(s) would also demand some damned careful positioning on the part of its support screen-it’s either stay on your flag’s unengaged arcs at all costs or get zorched by ion splash. And all this is assuming the Mandator doesn’t have its own screen either present or a short jump away. Eh, I figure that multi-role… Read more »

PhoenixKnight
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PhoenixKnight

New Season of TCW

Road Warrior
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Road Warrior

Ansel, that’s out of the park my friend.

Xeno
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Xeno

GLORIOUS