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Nate
Nate
28 days ago

I think this is officially my favorite Imperial fighter, and one of my favorite fighters in Star Wars. Comparable armament and shielding to an x-wing, with better speed and maneuverability. Defender is more powerful, but this thing is just plain sexy, and it would be a harder target to hit in a dogfight.

Admiral Senn
Admiral Senn
2 months ago

I’m surprised that the empire lost with these in there arsenal

Josh Peterson
Josh Peterson
2 months ago
Reply to  Admiral Senn

I don’t believe TIE Avengers were ever mass produced. Legends says they cost 400,000 credits a pop. That’s 100,000 more than the better TIE Defender. The TIE Defender definitely would’ve won the Galactic Civil War for the Empire, but Palpatine was an idiot who preferred fear-inducing theatrics over sound war strategies.

Nicholas Brown
Nicholas Brown
7 months ago

I wish there were model kits of this. Thank the Gods for kitbashing.

Ace
Ace
2 years ago

Hey, man, do you have fbx’s of this stuff available to download? I really would like to have a model of this to animate.

Anonymous
3 years ago

So Fractal on a topic of space superiority fighter how well do you think the rebel’s X-wing does?It is as good as everyone said it is or the X-wing is not all that special and it was just overpraising?

Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  Fractalsponge

Right although that got me thinking since any rebel fighter cannot match the defender do you think the rebels could created a powerful fighter that could match the defender without any plot armor and any so called ace pilot?

Anonymous
3 years ago
Reply to  Fractalsponge

Neat it would be cool to see your take on a rebel counterpart of the defender.

Maphisto86
Maphisto86
4 years ago

Beautiful rendition of one of my favorite old EU TIE designs.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
4 years ago

Haphazard thread-blathering on my part aside: gawd is your take on this beast a thing of dire beauty. Closest thing to an awkward angle would be to the rear, and even there the middle-panel cutout renders an Avenger predatory coming or going.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago

By away in legends this fighter, TIE Defender, Missile Boat and Starwing are quipped with a Tractor Beam which is optional.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

…I could halfway see a Starwing packing enough juice for such a thing, but seriously? Even considering the maneuver-tightening malarkey (by locking onto capships & stations) & prison-break antics of that one X-wing book where the Rogues get to play with Defenders (Isard’s Revenge, IIRC), strikes me that fighter-scale craft have enough trouble splitting thrust/firepower/shields without tossing tractors into the mix.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago

You know when you compare the TIE Avenger and the TIE Interceptor side by side they basically the same but the Avenger have a bigger hull and more engines than the TIE Interceptor which make it more powerful (More power storage) and faster. Unless the TIE Interceptor have greater maximum speed than the TIE Avenger and if not then the Interceptor is basically outclass in everyway but cost.
But that just my guess on what their roles are so what does the TIE interceptor have that the TIE Avenger does not have I mean interceptor type fighters are meant to be the fastest right like the rebel’s A-wing?

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

According to an ILM small-ship speed reference chart for ROTJ, Interceptors are just a smidgen slower than A-wings (though packing a lot more lasers). Vis-a-vis Avengers, the stock squint’s advantages might be limited to a smaller side-profile and price tag, though apparently Interceptors *can* be retrofitted with (ray?) shields, hyperdrive & (concussion?) warhead launchers, plus little ‘winglet’ radiator(?) panel-extensions so the former two systems don’t overtax ’em (comment image ) The resulting ship *almost* matches an Avenger’s performance/versatility (might still have a bit less thrust/weight), and apparently saw some use as a VIP escort.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  gorkmalork

Ah that is the Emperor’s Royal Guard TIE Interceptor which look awesome but I’m talking about what does the normal TIE Interceptor have that the TIE Avenger does not have (apart from being cheaper).
Although it does make me think what the Emperor’s Royal Guard TIE Defender would look like being coloured red and having winglets.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Dunno how the winglets would work/look on a Defender, since all its main panels are bent *outward* rather than inward-at least mechanics would have plenty of extra crannies to crawl on. Plus, Fractal’s model provides actual fuselage space for all those extra systems & engine power, though perhaps one could also stick a small Inquisitor TIE-style ‘trunk’ & rear ‘wing’ extensions on the Guard Interceptors & other mods. Anyhow, Avengers clearly have an edge on stock squints, though not enough to render pilot quality (or surprise) a total non-factor.

Chris Bradshaw
Chris Bradshaw
4 years ago

Ah, the Tie Interceptor that went to college and picked up the freshman 15. Awful jokes aside, the model and lighting is phenomenal

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
4 years ago
Reply to  Chris Bradshaw

Seems more like a squint that didn’t skip leg day to me. Seconded in full on the latter points, of course.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago

Have you ever thought of making one of the Uglies? Like a TYE Wing?

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
4 years ago
Reply to  Fractalsponge

Most of the mashups with TIE cockpits or squint wings seem to retain just enough aesthetic flow for my tastes, but anything with /ln hex-panels & a snub fuselage? No thanks. That noted, I don’t dare touch the ergonomic/engineering issues with such kit-welds.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  gorkmalork

But the ugliest of the uglies fighters is the Z-‘ceptor:comment image/revision/latest?cb=20150802035312
Yeah trying to make this will really give you a headache.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

That puppy’s repulsive, but still *vaguely* aerodynamic-looking. Whereas sandwiching TIE panels on a Y-wing fuselage just does not work.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Although there is probably the coolest one called Deathraven which is two B-wings combined together use by a mercenary pilot called Erron Kell:comment image/revision/latest?cb=20130812181434

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

@Anon
That…actually looks like a damned functional light gunship, though don’t tell me the cockpit-collar fuselage(s) rotation mechanism still works.

Valoren
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

@Anonymous
It isn’t actually the weirdest or most repulsive one. Ugly-builders also use part from ground vehicle, and some maniac decided that it would be a good idea to stick two TIE hex-wings on an the sides of an AT-AT decapitated head. Imagine encountering that in combat.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

@Gorkmalork
It does rotate ” the Deathraven boasted a larger, central cockpit with the two B-wing hulls rotating around it.”

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

@Valoren
Friggin’ figures someone would hash out an equally derpy opposite for the TIE-tanks. Sad thing is, that might STILL have a better visual flow than the Y-TIE (although I’m honestly not sure how *its* TYE-wing opposite is so weaksauce. Those extra engine pods kriff up crucial power couplings for the TIE ball or something?)

@Anon
Stang, that sounds awkward with the S-foils locked & upright-especially in atmosphere. Almost as goofy as that Mando fighter from Rebels with the perpetual propeller-style wing rotation.

Valoren
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

@gorkmalork
Apparently, the TYE-wing was also nicknamed the die-wing, because… you know.
There was also the X-TIE, a TIE cockpit with four T-65 wings sticked on it, and the corellian B-wing, who was B-wing with a Falcon-type oversized cockpit fixed at the end in lieu of the standard one.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

@Valoren
Actually That the Chir’daki use by Twi’leks this is the X-TIE.
:comment image/revision/latest?cb=20070724133903
There also the Z-TIE which is TIE wings on a Z-95 Headhunter which look basically the same as the X-TIE and the X-ceptor which is TIE Interceptor wings on a X-wing cockpit.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

@Fractal
Suppose you’re owed an apology for the colossal thread-digression, at any rate. Agreed for the most part *if* one’s shooting to even approach competitive performance, though SW tech seems leagues more forgiving re: certain values of balance (aerodynamics, fr’instance, seem a patently tertiary concern). I suspect you *could* rig up some of the less blatantly horrid examples noted above-just don’t expect ’em to win anything but a few thousand creds at the Jundland Junkmeet.

Chris Bradshaw
Chris Bradshaw
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Well if you strip the wings off a Tu22m backfire and slap them onto an F-22, you get what kind of looks like an ASF-14/21 Super Tomcat, a canceled stealthy F-14 total rebuild proposed in the late 90s capable of 77 degrees of sustained AoA. The Northrop Grumman team that ran performance models for it were stunned at its maneuverability, range, and endurance, but alas it was killed by Dick Cheney.

Artist’s impression:comment image

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

@Fractal
Well to be fair the uglies were mostly use by pirates and smugglers that lack the resources to buy or build good quality starfighters.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Oh right then I guess they most likely don’t work especially the DIE wing although the Deathraven might be useful.
But if you though the uglies in legends were something the ones in canon take it even futher of how ridiculous it got.
Something like this:comment image/revision/latest?cb=20161220200017

Polaris
Polaris
3 months ago
Reply to  Anonymous

My big complaint with Uglies is that they’re made out of exclusively TIEs and Rebel fighters, as if other starfighters do not exist. I mean, there are a lot of problems with them and the “would this even WORK?” question is totally valid, and I agree. But it just kills me that the kitbash ships are almost ALWAYS kitbashed from the same six ships.

George Apley
George Apley
4 years ago

With they’d paid you for this model rather than that Silencer BS…

Spaceman 28
Spaceman 28
4 years ago

Looks like Kylo Ren’s new ship. Except smaller. And fatter. But a hell of a lot more powerfull.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  Spaceman 28

Yeah especially being smaller since the TIE Silencer was around 17.5 meters long, 7.6 meters wide and 3.8 meters tall while the Avenger was just around 10 meters long.

George Apley
George Apley
4 years ago
Reply to  Fractalsponge

With they’d paid you for this model rather than that Silencer BS…

Spaceman 28
Spaceman 28
4 years ago
Reply to  Fractalsponge

Well you know what I mean.
Your looks better anyway. More badass.

jonathan
jonathan
4 years ago
Reply to  Spaceman 28

Yeahm, because its actually designed well and not all needlessly red and angular and black because its TEH EBIL.

gorkmalork
gorkmalork
4 years ago
Reply to  Fractalsponge

I’ll admit to morbid amusement that after stewing over a couple pages on the FFG forums rationalizing the Avenger’s omission from that X-wing game (‘too Interceptor-like’, ‘not as kewl as Defender’, etc.), now we have Ep 8’s designers seemingly lifting cues straight from this TIE’s 90s PC-gaming roots with a side of DAHK SIED(R) stylization. Which seems fitting for Mr. Ren’s Sith inadequacy issues, though Fractal’s model has it beaten hollow on most counts.

Valoren
4 years ago
Reply to  Fractalsponge

Whaaaa… but !.. No ! look, the silencer has a square cockpit with a weird red-colored window. It’s a completely original design. and it’s EEVILLL!
Jokes aside, It’s actually tragic that a guy like you doesn’t work on the new franchise. Even if it would be a charity work at this point, it would at least be a well-paid one.