i need it like 10x higher resolution. is it possible to get it somehow from somewhere? 😀
i wanna print it out to a full wall size. can some1 help me?
Fractal-fan
6 months ago
From what I can see this tector has the small Lambda hangar.
Last edited 6 months ago by Fractal-fan
ImperialPatriot66
1 year ago
Crazy coincidence but I found someone on Deviantart whose version of the Tector is almost exactly like yours but he uploaded it in January 2020. Did you use his as a reference or did you two just come to the same conclusion on how it should look like? Since this is much more awesome than just filing the hangar and moving the generator inwards of a normal ISD. Here it is anyway:
Tector-class Star Destroyer by Vexiphile on @DeviantArt https://www.deviantart.com/vexiphile/art/Tector-class-Star-Destroyer-825495162
Last edited 1 year ago by ImperialPatriot66
Nick
1 year ago
Tector is a pure battle-ship and the Imperator/Imperial is a battle-carrier.
Dillon Ellis
1 year ago
The Tector is a male star destroyer and the Imperator is a female star destroyer. Sorry, as a bio major I couldn’t help but superficially giving these war ships sexual dimorphism.
Actually that checks out. Historically if there are two variations of a vehicle in war that preform two different functions, the one that was more offensively oriented was considered male, and the one that focuses on a support role would be called female.
Honestly i’d disagree while yeah the tector is more offensively oriented, but that isn’t that the ISD isn’t, the frigate support ships would be the “female” ones
The issue with that is that the supporting frigates aren’t another variant on the ISD/Tector hull. ‘Male’ and ‘female’ vehicles were built on the same hull design as each other.
Lord Drakkmar
1 year ago
It seems that Venators and Tectors would complement each others capabilities quite well. A task force composed of those two ships would have a good balance between carrier capacity and firepower.
I would argue that proper contemporary counterpart to I/TSD is a Secutor (I see this as sort of transition from either Essexes to Midways or Midways to Forrestals, depending on the specifics).
And I fully agree on the combined force part – indeed, it would only make sense for a navy ingaged in an all out war, rather than counter-insurgency, to compose itself of specialised designs, knowing that more often than not they will fight as parts of a combined unit. Such navy would also have a much easier time justifying the spending for two ships, rather than craming all-round capability in one.
Btw, Storm and Chimeric – there needs to happen a rematch between T/SSD and ISD-only forces, this time each against CIS test squadron of the same composition rather than against each other (and maybe that too).
Imperial Navy Review
1 year ago
As always Fractal is accurate in all of his models. Fractal models are always accurate down to the every detail. Quick question, Are there any auxiliary bridges, or is it like the Imperial-1 and 2 classes?
My understanding is that the Imperial-I and -II both had auxiliary bridges in either the back of the bridge tower or in the primary hull just forward of the Bridge tower. The primary bridge appears to have mostly been in such heavy use because of poor doctrine and sloppy procedure, not an inherent lack of alternatives present in those designs.
Yes, the use of Tarkin Doctrine really crippled the Empire, I would assume there are auxiliary bridges, but never have they been labeled in any cross section, nor could I find any information in (legends and canon) that they exist.
Eh, not entirely sure it crippled the Empire that much. I know the Executor at least DID have auxillary bridges since it was mentioned in the cross sections, and also indicated part of the reason why the Executor made its final descent was largely because no one was able to use the auxillary bridge on time before the ship entered the Gravity Well of the DS-II.
Personally, I’m pretty sure the Imperial Classes DID have auxillary bridges. Aside from it being a common-sense measure especially for a militaristic group like the Empire, let’s not forget that even the poster child of the Tarkin Doctrine, the Death Star, specifically implemented at least one auxillary bridge in the various sections of the Death Star, at least one including the Emperor’s Throne Room, specifically in the event that the primary bridge, aka the Overbridge itself was significantly damaged.
The Lost Stars novel mentions an auxiliary bridge in chapter 8 where Ciena “manually delivered copies of the auxiliary bridge’s hard data files to the ISB internal affairs officer” So an auxiliary bridge was present on at least the Devastator and most likely all other Impstar 1. There’s also later mentions in the book when Thane is boarding a star destroyer over Jakku that they had to ensure they secured the auxiliary bridge which means the Impstar Deuce also had an auxiliary bridge. I’d imagine there’s an auxiliary bridge or similar backup control method on every ship larger than a light cruiser.
What little official description we get of the Tector is quite clear that it doesn’t have a hangar. Fractal was generous giving it the one that it got.
The Tector class does is not equipped with any hanger facilities, instead focusing on Battleship capabilities, and not a Jack-of-all-trades. There is no stormtroopers on board, we can infer that it has a smaller crew compliment.
There most definitely are stormtroopers aboard, for security and boarding actions if nothing else. They just won’t have vehicles. Also the Tector retains the small hangar from the ISD. You’d still need a shuttle bay.
Well, I dont really have any attached numbers to this, but the cost of any ship would be primarily determined by its powerplant and/or armament (though in warships these two usually come hand in hand) and in this case we can outright exclude the hull itself from the calc, which leaves you with 1,8-2 times the cost of an ISD
Thanks, I saw one of fractals old comments about that and decided the cost to be about 270 mil.
jean-luc
2 years ago
why couldn’t the standard ISD have this much-improved gun layout? look at them side by side, it’s obvious the ISD has a BAD layout for its primary battery.
CFletch
2 years ago
What would the role of this ship be compared to the standard ISD and the Allegiance-class?
I think Tectors are meant to be purpose built battle line brawlers, with increased armor and weaponry at the expense of fighter and troop compliment, while the Imperial-class is meant as a somewhat multi-role ship that’s simultaneously an imposing battleship, a TIE fighter carrier and system-wide force projection platform, and a mobile stormtrooper garrison that can throw troops and light walkers at problems on the ground. I remember seeing Tectors described as needing carrier support, and something else saying Gladiator-class frigates were initially meant to be support carriers for heavy battle lines before their roles were diversified. This gave me the the impression that someone decided that Tectors and Gladiators were meant to work together, and it seems like it would be a pretty effective sort of fleet composition.
Absolutely, Gladiators would be great support ships, and the fleet would be even better if you threw in a few Lancer frigates and Raider Corvettes for anti starfighter, and a few Ton Falk or Quasar Fire class carriers too for extra starfighters. Part of the downfall of the Empire was probably caused by over reliance on the big scary Imperial Star Destroyers in battle, when they were terrible at destroying the rebels greatest strength – starfighters.
Tectors are kind of like the precurser to the allegiance class. Tectors would have been in the same role in the Republic fleet as Allegiances are in the Imperial Fleet.
If you look at the two ships side by side not only is their weaponry and layout similar but so is there design and they both opt to get rid of their hanger bay for a bigger reactor and increased armor.
Yeah great observation. I think they’re both pretty awesome, and if you have a fleet of them with carrier and anti starfighter support then they’re much better than straight ISDs which the Empire seemed to love.
How would they endanger the ship, they appear to be akin to thrust vector panes for increased maneuverability like modern jet fighters like the F-22 use.
Starchaser
2 years ago
I thought it couldn’t look any cooler before I scrolled down to the Republic liveries.
vincent delisi
2 years ago
Love this ship, amazing work. Just never understood whey Imperial ships always skimped on placing heavy weapons on the undersides of their ships.
Depends on how they’re used. If they are arranged similarly to the dorsal heavy batteries, then having those batteries mirrored on the ventral surface would allow for some truly blistering forward barrages, not to mention doubling the power of each broadside. Plus the two big capital ship engagements we see in the films (Battle of Coruscant and Battle of Endor), both degenerated into a close-quarters brawl without clear battle lines in short order. In that kind of a combat environment (where the enemy could be coming at you from literally any threat axis), having one entire half of the ship with little-to-no heavy armament could be a critical weakness.
The only rationale that makes any sense for why the Tector doesn’t have a ton of weaponry on its ventral side is if it’s a logistical issue with the ship’s power supply. If it can’t actually power that many heavy batteries simultaneously, then it makes sense to concentrate them on one side or the other to ensure that the ship is very strong on one axis, rather than spreading them out so the ship is fairly weak on ALL axes…
It’s much easier to keep a target in one broad arc than try to point the ship on to the target in a narrow alpha cone on the bow (about 8 degrees or so given the hull shape), not least because that would mean you need to either be stationary or moving towards the target, making it harder to hold the range. In the grand scheme of things, a Tector is meant to maneuver, not sit there as a turret, and you’ll optimize the armament so that it can move and still keep a target in its primary arcs.
Nicholas Brown
2 years ago
By George Lucas’s beard! It’s BEAUTIFUL!
I love the look of the tector! It’s so brutal!
Josh Peterson
2 years ago
The Republic coloration was a very pleasant surprise
Jaja Inks
2 years ago
I have always believed that the tector was less well armed than the imperial. I was largely wrong ^^
wusolja
2 years ago
ISD mk I: solar ionization reactor, no power issues
ISD mk II: same reactor, more guns, still no power issues.
Tector-class: basically the same ship. larger guns,closed hangar(?) [additional generators to occupy space?], same reactor.
ISDII guns are smaller – more barrels, same overall power output. Tector’s actually got space for ~2x ISD power, even once the reactor is brought internal, due to the extra terrace superstructure space, and replacing the hangar bay with extra secondary reactor.
Same, and with the ISD1 bridge tower. The current “Imperator-class star destroyer” has an ISD2 tower. It’d be great to see Fractal’s Imperator with an ISD1 tower in Republic red. Salivating at the thought.
i need it like 10x higher resolution. is it possible to get it somehow from somewhere? 😀
i wanna print it out to a full wall size. can some1 help me?
From what I can see this tector has the small Lambda hangar.
Crazy coincidence but I found someone on Deviantart whose version of the Tector is almost exactly like yours but he uploaded it in January 2020. Did you use his as a reference or did you two just come to the same conclusion on how it should look like? Since this is much more awesome than just filing the hangar and moving the generator inwards of a normal ISD. Here it is anyway:
Tector-class Star Destroyer by Vexiphile on @DeviantArt
https://www.deviantart.com/vexiphile/art/Tector-class-Star-Destroyer-825495162
Tector is a pure battle-ship and the Imperator/Imperial is a battle-carrier.
The Tector is a male star destroyer and the Imperator is a female star destroyer. Sorry, as a bio major I couldn’t help but superficially giving these war ships sexual dimorphism.
Actually that checks out. Historically if there are two variations of a vehicle in war that preform two different functions, the one that was more offensively oriented was considered male, and the one that focuses on a support role would be called female.
Honestly i’d disagree while yeah the tector is more offensively oriented, but that isn’t that the ISD isn’t, the frigate support ships would be the “female” ones
The issue with that is that the supporting frigates aren’t another variant on the ISD/Tector hull. ‘Male’ and ‘female’ vehicles were built on the same hull design as each other.
It seems that Venators and Tectors would complement each others capabilities quite well. A task force composed of those two ships would have a good balance between carrier capacity and firepower.
I would argue that proper contemporary counterpart to I/TSD is a Secutor (I see this as sort of transition from either Essexes to Midways or Midways to Forrestals, depending on the specifics).
And I fully agree on the combined force part – indeed, it would only make sense for a navy ingaged in an all out war, rather than counter-insurgency, to compose itself of specialised designs, knowing that more often than not they will fight as parts of a combined unit. Such navy would also have a much easier time justifying the spending for two ships, rather than craming all-round capability in one.
Btw, Storm and Chimeric – there needs to happen a rematch between T/SSD and ISD-only forces, this time each against CIS test squadron of the same composition rather than against each other (and maybe that too).
As always Fractal is accurate in all of his models. Fractal models are always accurate down to the every detail. Quick question, Are there any auxiliary bridges, or is it like the Imperial-1 and 2 classes?
My understanding is that the Imperial-I and -II both had auxiliary bridges in either the back of the bridge tower or in the primary hull just forward of the Bridge tower. The primary bridge appears to have mostly been in such heavy use because of poor doctrine and sloppy procedure, not an inherent lack of alternatives present in those designs.
Yes, the use of Tarkin Doctrine really crippled the Empire, I would assume there are auxiliary bridges, but never have they been labeled in any cross section, nor could I find any information in (legends and canon) that they exist.
Eh, not entirely sure it crippled the Empire that much. I know the Executor at least DID have auxillary bridges since it was mentioned in the cross sections, and also indicated part of the reason why the Executor made its final descent was largely because no one was able to use the auxillary bridge on time before the ship entered the Gravity Well of the DS-II.
Personally, I’m pretty sure the Imperial Classes DID have auxillary bridges. Aside from it being a common-sense measure especially for a militaristic group like the Empire, let’s not forget that even the poster child of the Tarkin Doctrine, the Death Star, specifically implemented at least one auxillary bridge in the various sections of the Death Star, at least one including the Emperor’s Throne Room, specifically in the event that the primary bridge, aka the Overbridge itself was significantly damaged.
The Lost Stars novel mentions an auxiliary bridge in chapter 8 where Ciena “manually delivered copies of the auxiliary bridge’s hard data files to the ISB internal affairs officer” So an auxiliary bridge was present on at least the Devastator and most likely all other Impstar 1. There’s also later mentions in the book when Thane is boarding a star destroyer over Jakku that they had to ensure they secured the auxiliary bridge which means the Impstar Deuce also had an auxiliary bridge. I’d imagine there’s an auxiliary bridge or similar backup control method on every ship larger than a light cruiser.
Where are the hangars?
What little official description we get of the Tector is quite clear that it doesn’t have a hangar. Fractal was generous giving it the one that it got.
The Tector class does is not equipped with any hanger facilities, instead focusing on Battleship capabilities, and not a Jack-of-all-trades. There is no stormtroopers on board, we can infer that it has a smaller crew compliment.
There most definitely are stormtroopers aboard, for security and boarding actions if nothing else. They just won’t have vehicles. Also the Tector retains the small hangar from the ISD. You’d still need a shuttle bay.
He still need some bay as it is easy to load supply route. Easier than getting supply ship or station close and dock with Tector directly.
Thanks for the info. What do you think are it’s compliment?
(Shuttle, Stormtrooper) Would you do a halo ship?
How much do you guys think this baby would cost compared to the ISD?
Well, I dont really have any attached numbers to this, but the cost of any ship would be primarily determined by its powerplant and/or armament (though in warships these two usually come hand in hand) and in this case we can outright exclude the hull itself from the calc, which leaves you with 1,8-2 times the cost of an ISD
Thanks, I saw one of fractals old comments about that and decided the cost to be about 270 mil.
why couldn’t the standard ISD have this much-improved gun layout? look at them side by side, it’s obvious the ISD has a BAD layout for its primary battery.
What would the role of this ship be compared to the standard ISD and the Allegiance-class?
I think Tectors are meant to be purpose built battle line brawlers, with increased armor and weaponry at the expense of fighter and troop compliment, while the Imperial-class is meant as a somewhat multi-role ship that’s simultaneously an imposing battleship, a TIE fighter carrier and system-wide force projection platform, and a mobile stormtrooper garrison that can throw troops and light walkers at problems on the ground. I remember seeing Tectors described as needing carrier support, and something else saying Gladiator-class frigates were initially meant to be support carriers for heavy battle lines before their roles were diversified. This gave me the the impression that someone decided that Tectors and Gladiators were meant to work together, and it seems like it would be a pretty effective sort of fleet composition.
Absolutely, Gladiators would be great support ships, and the fleet would be even better if you threw in a few Lancer frigates and Raider Corvettes for anti starfighter, and a few Ton Falk or Quasar Fire class carriers too for extra starfighters. Part of the downfall of the Empire was probably caused by over reliance on the big scary Imperial Star Destroyers in battle, when they were terrible at destroying the rebels greatest strength – starfighters.
Tectors are kind of like the precurser to the allegiance class. Tectors would have been in the same role in the Republic fleet as Allegiances are in the Imperial Fleet.
If you look at the two ships side by side not only is their weaponry and layout similar but so is there design and they both opt to get rid of their hanger bay for a bigger reactor and increased armor.
So basically they are heavy star destroyers.
What is the Armament and dimensions?
The tectors size was about the same as a ISD so 1.6km.
Tector the only armaments we know about it are from Fractals version.
So
12 twin heavy turbolaser Turrets
2 heavy twin ion Cannons
2 heavy Quad turbolaser Turrets
8-12 triple medium turbolaser Turrets
Unknown number of normal turbolaser cannons and Point defense.
The allegiance was around 2,200 meters
And was equipped with
12 heavy Quad turbolaser
6 heavy Quad ion Cannons
3 super heavy ion Cannons or turbolasers
Unknown number of turbolasers, Quad turbolasers And Point defense Cannons
Yeah great observation. I think they’re both pretty awesome, and if you have a fleet of them with carrier and anti starfighter support then they’re much better than straight ISDs which the Empire seemed to love.
Nice!!! 😜
I love the Republic colors
This is my new favorite Fractal design
I love how it has an ISD 1 bridge
Anyone happens to know what Tector means?
It’s got a few meanings, thatcher, masculine, a Calvary trooper with a big shield
The last one is probably it, since the ship’s lore is that its an ISD with heavier armor and weaponry
Tectos are actually closer to the Allegiance class design and weaponry wise then they are Imperator’s.
It could also be a shortened version of “protector” as well.
Any particular reason you moved the 2 ventral bow triple medium TLs further aft?
these square things on the engines only endanger the beautiful ship
How would they endanger the ship, they appear to be akin to thrust vector panes for increased maneuverability like modern jet fighters like the F-22 use.
I thought it couldn’t look any cooler before I scrolled down to the Republic liveries.
Love this ship, amazing work. Just never understood whey Imperial ships always skimped on placing heavy weapons on the undersides of their ships.
Because it means hauling guns unable to contribute to the fight in a very big sector.
Depends on how they’re used. If they are arranged similarly to the dorsal heavy batteries, then having those batteries mirrored on the ventral surface would allow for some truly blistering forward barrages, not to mention doubling the power of each broadside. Plus the two big capital ship engagements we see in the films (Battle of Coruscant and Battle of Endor), both degenerated into a close-quarters brawl without clear battle lines in short order. In that kind of a combat environment (where the enemy could be coming at you from literally any threat axis), having one entire half of the ship with little-to-no heavy armament could be a critical weakness.
The only rationale that makes any sense for why the Tector doesn’t have a ton of weaponry on its ventral side is if it’s a logistical issue with the ship’s power supply. If it can’t actually power that many heavy batteries simultaneously, then it makes sense to concentrate them on one side or the other to ensure that the ship is very strong on one axis, rather than spreading them out so the ship is fairly weak on ALL axes…
It’s much easier to keep a target in one broad arc than try to point the ship on to the target in a narrow alpha cone on the bow (about 8 degrees or so given the hull shape), not least because that would mean you need to either be stationary or moving towards the target, making it harder to hold the range. In the grand scheme of things, a Tector is meant to maneuver, not sit there as a turret, and you’ll optimize the armament so that it can move and still keep a target in its primary arcs.
By George Lucas’s beard! It’s BEAUTIFUL!
I love the look of the tector! It’s so brutal!
The Republic coloration was a very pleasant surprise
I have always believed that the tector was less well armed than the imperial. I was largely wrong ^^
ISD mk I: solar ionization reactor, no power issues
ISD mk II: same reactor, more guns, still no power issues.
Tector-class: basically the same ship. larger guns,closed hangar(?) [additional generators to occupy space?], same reactor.
ISDII guns are smaller – more barrels, same overall power output. Tector’s actually got space for ~2x ISD power, even once the reactor is brought internal, due to the extra terrace superstructure space, and replacing the hangar bay with extra secondary reactor.
Totally dig the Republic paint job
Id love to see the ISD mk I with a republic paint job and see these babies in formation with some Venators.
Same, and with the ISD1 bridge tower. The current “Imperator-class star destroyer” has an ISD2 tower. It’d be great to see Fractal’s Imperator with an ISD1 tower in Republic red. Salivating at the thought.
Same with Fractal’s Secutor models