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Robert

What are those structure between the side turbo laser batteries look like small hangers

Keilerbie
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Keilerbie

It looks like an Assertor that was blown up and reassembled into this. I love it!

Dan
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Dan

How many guns total does this have?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

By away fractal you said the Impellor class fleet carrier have three bridge station on the tower bridge as it is for maintaining fighters and ground forces right? And if so then why does the Compellor star cruiser have the same one as well when the Compellor was a warship counterpart? Is it because they do the same job with fighters and ground forces or something different?

PyrrhicVictory7
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PyrrhicVictory7

Its like a baby Assertor!

mr.oneshot
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mr.oneshot

Both the Compellor and the Impellor use the Bellator’s hull, right? (altough it’s obviously cut-down)

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Why is this ship only have IISD Oct HTL as is main batteries instead of something stronger like the Allegiance,s Quad 140 teraton HTL main or at best the Bellator,s 720 teraton Twin HTL main or is 240 Quad teraton HTL secondary?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

My bad the Allegiance one is actually 175 teraton and I forgot to mention that the Oct HTL is around 32 to 40 teraton.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

You said this is a medium star cruiser right and if so then in this post you have created
http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?p=3376574#p3376574
on the 240-HTL gun part you said this cailber was used as a medium star cruiser main gun and captial secondary gun so (unless this post has become outdated and you have change your mind about it or not) then why this ship only have oct 40 HTLs star destroyer’s guns (and some of those main guns you said were quad 40 HTLs) as it main and quad MTLs as it secondary?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Sorry if i’m bothering you with these posts I making but i just want to know why did you make the armament on this ship like that.

Grand Admiral 517
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Grand Admiral 517

AWESOME!
This should be Legends canon!

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Or rather, be the class of some battlecruiser or other Imperial/First Order ship in the 3-5km range whose class has yet to be established… it’s definitely larger than the 2.9km Resurgent, however.

Grand Admiral 517
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Grand Admiral 517

Nah Disney would just ruin it. Byt there are battlecruisers in the EU that still needs to be identified…
(Ilthmar’s Fist and Stellar Halo for example)

(I know this won’t happen but I can at least dream)

Revan
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Revan

If you compare the octuple Barbette htl on this to the ones on the isd ii I’d say it’s actually about 1.8 km long or 1,800 meters

The Wandering Jewels
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The Wandering Jewels

hmm looks like 32 Ultra heavy Twin-linked turbolasers topside, eight lower bottom side, 24 heavy turbolasers dorsal and ventral. I have no idea on how many weapons down the centerline..

Anonymous
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Anonymous

If I counted correctly, there’s an additional 31 of those octuple barbette turbolaser batteries on the dorsal portion of the ship. With 19 of them specifically down the centerline of the ship.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I wonder if you are going to do this ship in the future or not.
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Anonymous
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Anonymous

I wonder if you are going to do this Star Cruiser in future or not?
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Anonymous
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Anonymous

I wonder if you are going to do this Star Cruiser in the future?
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Hecatomb
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Hecatomb

Now that is one mean-looking ship! Even more intimidating than the Imperator-class. You certainly have a knack for instilling your designs with a sense of character.

Birs
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Birs

Hi Fractal, you did some wonderfully high resolute shots of all your other ships in the past. Could you please add some spec shots of this beauty (esp. dorsal and ventral) bigger than those 2560px, please?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

Do you think this ship doe the multi-role style better than the imperial star destroyer?

Jackalope
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Jackalope

So how long is it, because you said that its smaller than the Praetor, but still a large cruiser, could be similar to the Resurgent Class Battlecruiser.

Anonymous
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Anonymous

How many fighters can this ship carry?

Adm. Drakkmar
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Adm. Drakkmar

Seems to me this niche is already filled with the Praetor Mk II, with both being roughly the same size. Does this vessel have improved firepower over the Praetor? Just curious as to what the different roles would be.

Codie
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Codie

The turbolaser turrets on this are similar to the octuples on the Imperial II class correct? I really like this design. It fills a gap between the Allegiance class and the Mandator/Bellator designs quite nicely. I feel like the Allegiance is more of a “large cruiser” as opposed to a true battlecruiser. This and the Bellator are my two favorite designs you’ve made by far. Ever consider expanding on the Bellator/ Mandator classes?

gorkmalork
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As I understand it, Fractal’s spin on Allegiance packs cruiser-grade firepower on an upper-end-size destroyer hull by maximizing reactor volume & minimizing non-power-related stuff like hangar space. Incidentally, the Bellator & Mandator weren’t that closely linked prior to the Essential Guide to Warfare; FS had intended to model Mandator as a slightly (i.e. 14 km) shorter but bulkier, pre-Executor dreadnought with some design commonality.

Xeno
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Xeno

Mandator I and II are 8 kilometers, Mandator III is 12 kilometers, Bellator ~7.2 kilometers, Assertor 15, Executor 19.

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

I was aware of the EGW & ‘pedia stats, but reminder appreciated.

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

Digging this beast’s thruster layout, understated ‘terraces’, lovingly-greebled axial ridge & decent fantail firepower distribution. All told, this design & its carrier counterpart fill a notable gap ‘tween the upper-end destroyers & sundry Marvel/Dark Horse battlecruisers (even if most of those have been stricken from the ‘official’ record). Ah, and color me curious about those brim-trench pylons near the amidships MTL arrays: tractor beams?

Xeno
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Xeno

It seems a lot like an Assertor/Bellator dwarf. Downright terrifying. If I was a rebel captain and I saw this barreling my way, I’d run. At least with an Executor your ship is probably smaller than it’s primary turrets…

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

Well, with Ex & others approaching her tonnage, it’s not so much the lack of any proper-for-zorching-you gun caliber so much as the logistical boondoggle of siccing that much ship on your CR90 squad or single MC80 in the first place. This one’s mean enough to solo most potential targets & less likely to give the bean-counters a triple bypass.

Xeno
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Xeno

Haha true enough. Still, though, I never got why they made the Executor…I mean, 12-km mandator iiis aren’t enough?

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

Executor’s edge(s) over prior dreadnoughts might’ve involved sublight acceleration, carrier/tender capability, or EW/coordination (what with the Antenna City on her dorsal surface). Plus, shiny new flagshps to keep the Core properly spooked-err, secure.

Xeno
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Xeno

As I said, beastly ship. I love it.

Any chance of the Imperial Light Cruiser or the Interdictor-class?

(sorry for all my suggestions. Do whatever you like, and I’ll almost certainly still drool over it)

Xeno
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Xeno

Oh, and finally – any ideas on crew and stormtrooper numbers, TIE numbers, etc?

RhysT
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RhysT

he’s done an interdictor already actually. http://fractalsponge.net/?p=867

Xeno
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Xeno

Interdictor based on the vindicator

EmperorNiko
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EmperorNiko

That would be called the Immobilizer 418 Cruiser
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Immobilizer_418_cruiser

Xeno
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Xeno

Yes, my mistake.

ARCONAUT
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ARCONAUT

Not a mistake, Xeno. The Immobilizer 418 was based on the Vindicator.

Xeno
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Xeno

I meant that I called it an Interdictor, rather than an Immobilizer.

Sephiroth0812
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Sephiroth0812

It still is “an” Interdictor though since the Im 418 has the abilities of an Interdictor. Strictly spoken all ships which have a grav-well to prevent hyperspace jumps or pull other ships out of hyperspace can be called an Interdictor because the term can also be used as a description for the functionality/ability of the ship, it’s limited to a class name. There does exist an “Interdictor-class” in Knights of the Old Republic, meaning the lead ship of that class was probably actually named “Interdictor”, but in terms of functionality the Immobilizer 418, the CC-7700 Frigate, Eclipse-class SSD and the… Read more »

Anditesh Ordo
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Anditesh Ordo

Also how big is this compared to Regular Imperial Star Destroyer?

Xeno
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Xeno

I think he said 4.3 km. An Imperial-class is 1.6 km, a Procursator ~1.2 km, a Victory ~900 meters, those new Episode VII Resurgents about 2.9 km, a Venator about 1.1 km.

Sephiroth0812
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Sephiroth0812

4.3 km would make it bigger than a Praetor Mark I (which is exactly 4 km), but smaller than a Praetor Mark II (4.8 km), thus placing it in the Star Battlecruiser range.

Anditesh Ordo
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Anditesh Ordo

Hey, I would love to see more Mandalorian and Zann Consortium Love.

Astro1derboy
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Astro1derboy

I agree with wminsing; would LOVE to see some Rebel ships with your treatment. 🙂

RhysT
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RhysT

I’m always curious about these ships. First of all what era do you see this one and the Impellor being constructed in? Like were a handful produced during the Clone Wars and then hit mass production in the Imperial Era? Or is this later than that even. Then of course I wonder what kind of defences does it have? I know that they have ray and deflector shields of course, but what are it’s point defence capabilities. I’m aware that many KDY warships under Tarkin’s doctrine suffered from trench run syndrome or whatever it’s called. Are these models any better… Read more »

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

Offhand, I’m not sure the Tarkin Doctrine was ever *that* much of a crippling KDY design influence; for one thing, pretty sure the late-90s novels quoting Ackbar and/or Wedge on Impstar vulnerability took most of their numbers from the X-wing & Tie Fighter PC games, which were understandably a skosh snubfighter-biased. Plus, most of the fire we see from OT Imperial heavies seems to indicate plenty of medium or point-defense guns, including some nasty off-angle hits (cripes, Executor’s gunners came within an inch of averting that bridge impact). It’s just rather tough to perceive fighter-scale weapons on multi-mile hulls.

wminsing
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wminsing

Amazing work, as usual!

Are the Rebels ever going to get a little love from you?

jonathan
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jonathan

this is not a criticism on anyone who uses the term but I really don’t like “impstar” as an enemy designation. It doesn’t make sense in-universe unless there are also “venstars” “vicstars” and the like.

just a thought.

Xeno
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Xeno

It’s not because it’s an imperial-class star destroyer, but it would be a star destroyer in the imperial navy, owned by the empire. Get it?

gorkmalork
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gorkmalork

For what it’s worth, those aforementioned X-wing books had Ackbar referring to Victories as “Vics” whilst Home One was engaging a minor ex-Imp warlord’s flagship & escorts. Not a huge fan of Allston (RIP) & Stackpole’s sense of scale, but I retain a soft spot for their sundry slang terms referring to fighters & capital craft alike. Plus, “Impstar” just rolls off my mental ‘tongue’ better than ‘ISD’ due to fewer syllables-sheer irrational preference at work. Certainly wouldn’t expect anyone else to follow my lead on this, and I’ll admit to using “Impstar” as lazy shorthand for “Imp capital ships… Read more »

Xeno
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Xeno

Damn! That’s a fine ship! Looks a lot like a bellator!